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    <p>Hi Denis,</p>
    <p>I think the current main suggestion is to add a new DB auth
      scheme, such as "auth: SSO-LIR no.foobar" that includes all the
      SSO accounts linked to the LIR except for Billing accounts.</p>
    <p>Kind regards,<br>
      Cynthia Revström<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2019-01-07 11:20, denis walker via
      db-wg wrote:<br>
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            id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1546578800374_99270"> Hi Tore</span></div>
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        <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1546578800374_99018"><span
            id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1546578800374_99019">Just to clarify a
            point here. Are you suggesting that for all LIRs, all listed
            LIR (non-billing) administrators should be able to manage
            all the LIR's database objects that will all be maintained
            by this one 'magic' MNTNER object as "mnt-by:",
            "mnt-lower:", "mnt-routes"?<br>
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            id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1546578800374_99019">If any of the
            'all' in that statement don't apply then can we be clearer
            on the use case for this MNTNER object?</span></div>
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        <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1546578800374_99188"><span
            id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1546578800374_99019">cheers</span></div>
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                    size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b>
                  Tore Anderson via db-wg <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:db-wg@ripe.net"><db-wg@ripe.net></a><br>
                  <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b>
                  Piotr Strzyzewski <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:Piotr.Strzyzewski@polsl.pl"><Piotr.Strzyzewski@polsl.pl></a> <br>
                  <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b>
                  <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:db-wg-chairs@ripe.net">db-wg-chairs@ripe.net</a>; Aleksi Suhonen
                  <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:Aleksi.Suhonen@axu.tm"><Aleksi.Suhonen@axu.tm></a>; <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:db-wg@ripe.net">db-wg@ripe.net</a><br>
                  <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b>
                  Monday, 7 January 2019, 10:25<br>
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                      id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1546578800374_99339">Subject:</span></b>
                  Re: [db-wg] Idea: magic mntner for all LIR contacts<br>
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                  id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1546578800374_98978">* Piotr
                  Strzyzewski via db-wg<br clear="none">
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                  > Look at this page<br clear="none">
                  > <a shape="rect"
                    href="https://www.ripe.net/manage-ips-and-asns/db/numbered-work-items"
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                    moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.ripe.net/manage-ips-and-asns/db/numbered-work-items</a><br
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                  > and start new NWI.<br clear="none">
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                  Thanks for the pointer!<br clear="none">
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                  Chairs (cc-ed), could we have an NWI for this?<br
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                  Rough problem statement for the kickstart phase
                  follows:<br clear="none">
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                  There is currently no way to automatically sync the
                  «auth: SSO <a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:x@y"
                    href="mailto:x@y" moz-do-not-send="true">x@y</a>»<br
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                  attributes for a maintainer object with the list of
                  (non-billing) users<br clear="none">
                  associated with an LIR.<br clear="none">
                  <br clear="none">
                  This leads to duplication of work (adding/removing
                  newly hired/departed<br clear="none">
                  LIR administrators in two places).<br clear="none">
                  <br clear="none">
                  Additionally, this increases the risk of unauthorised
                  access, e.g., if an<br clear="none">
                  administrator has left an LIR but was only removed
                  from the LIR portal,<br clear="none">
                  he might inappropriately retain access to manage
                  database objects for the<br clear="none">
                  LIR in question.<br clear="none">
                  <br clear="none">
                  It is therefore desirable to have a method to protect
                  RIPE database<br clear="none">
                  objects so that they can be maintained by the list of
                  (non-billing)<br clear="none">
                  user accounts currently associated with a specific LIR
                  at any given<br clear="none">
                  time. That is, when a RIPE NCC Access account is
                  removed from the LIR's<br clear="none">
                  user list, the database maintainer access should be
                  automatically<br clear="none">
                  revoked for that account as well.
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