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    <p>Hey Hans,</p>
    <p>thanks for following up on this.</p>
    <p>Before we start working on this, is a policy proposal really
      needed? I'm not sure which policy proposal should be updated.</p>
    <p>I would be happy to make a policy proposal - I will need your
      help or Marco's.</p>
    <p>@Denis - do you want to co-author?<br>
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    <p>Elvis<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/22/19 06:40, Hans Petter Holen via
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            style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Following Denis’s presentation at the last database working group meeting and Elvis’s messages to the RIPE NCC members list I think it is time to have a new discussion on the need for personal objects in the RIPE Database.</span></p>
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href="https://ripe77.ripe.net/presentations/63-PERSONobjects.pdf"
              style="text-decoration-line:none" moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;text-decoration-line:underline;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">https://ripe77.ripe.net/presentations/63-PERSONobjects.pdf</span></a><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"> </span><a
              href="https://ripe77.ripe.net/archives/video/2298/"
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href="https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/members-discuss/2019-February/003295.html"
              style="text-decoration-line:none" moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;text-decoration-line:underline;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/members-discuss/2019-February/003295.html</span></a></p>
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            style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">This is not questioning previous legal assessments of GDPR compliance, but taking a step back and looking at how would we do this if we were to design the RIPE Database with today's privacy requirements in mind.</span></p>
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            style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">The ccTLD for .NO, Norid made an update to their service last year to completely remove person objects from their database. </span><a
href="https://www.norid.no/uploads/2017/12/Datamodell-revidert-en-v2.pdf"
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            style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">In terms of the RIPE Database, that would mean that resources would refer to organisational objects and roles, not to personal objects.</span></p>
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            style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Perhaps Denis and/or Elvis would propose a policy change in this respect?</span></p>
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