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<div>Hi Elvis</div><div><br></div><div>We don't need to 'update' any existing policy it could be a new policy concerning personal data in the RIPE Database. I've been thinking about this since the last meeting so yes I am fine working with you Elvis on a proposal.</div><div><br></div><div>cheers</div><div>denis</div><div>co-chair DB-WG<br></div><div><br></div>
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On Friday, 22 February 2019, 22:14:27 CET, Elvis Daniel Velea via db-wg <db-wg@ripe.net> wrote:
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<p>Hey Hans,</p>
<p>thanks for following up on this.</p>
<p>Before we start working on this, is a policy proposal really
needed? I'm not sure which policy proposal should be updated.</p>
<p>I would be happy to make a policy proposal - I will need your
help or Marco's.</p>
<p>@Denis - do you want to co-author?<br clear="none">
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</span><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;">Following Denis’s presentation at the last database working group meeting and Elvis’s messages to the RIPE NCC members list I think it is time to have a new discussion on the need for personal objects in the RIPE Database.</span></p>
<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><a shape="rect" href="https://ripe77.ripe.net/presentations/63-PERSONobjects.pdf" style="text-decoration-line:none;" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;background-color:transparent;text-decoration-line:underline;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;">https://ripe77.ripe.net/presentations/63-PERSONobjects.pdf</span></a><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;"> </span><a shape="rect" href="https://ripe77.ripe.net/archives/video/2298/" style="text-decoration-line:none;" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;background-color:transparent;text-decoration-line:underline;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;">https://ripe77.ripe.net/archives/video/2298/</span></a><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;"> </span><a shape="rect" href="https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/members-discuss/2019-February/003295.html" style="text-decoration-line:none;" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;background-color:transparent;text-decoration-line:underline;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;">https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/members-discuss/2019-February/003295.html</span></a></p>
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<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;">This is not questioning previous legal assessments of GDPR compliance, but taking a step back and looking at how would we do this if we were to design the RIPE Database with today's privacy requirements in mind.</span></p>
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<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;">The ccTLD for .NO, Norid made an update to their service last year to completely remove person objects from their database. </span><a shape="rect" href="https://www.norid.no/uploads/2017/12/Datamodell-revidert-en-v2.pdf" style="text-decoration-line:none;" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;background-color:transparent;text-decoration-line:underline;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;">https://www.norid.no/uploads/2017/12/Datamodell-revidert-en-v2.pdf</span></a><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;"> </span></p>
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<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;">In terms of the RIPE Database, that would mean that resources would refer to organisational objects and roles, not to personal objects.</span></p>
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<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;">Perhaps Denis and/or Elvis would propose a policy change in this respect?</span></p>
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