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        <div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">If only things had been created in such an orderly way :) Unfortunately not. In a NIK-HDL the source is a suffix and on set objects the function is a prefix.</div><div><br></div>
        
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                    On Thursday, 1 October 2020, 14:00:16 CEST, Lutz Donnerhacke via db-wg <db-wg@ripe.net> wrote:
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<p class="ydpdb57e8f6yiv6964303283MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#1F497D;">Of course it’s not necessary.</span></p> 
<p class="ydpdb57e8f6yiv6964303283MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#1F497D;">I just want to point out, that the source is usually a prefix, while the function is usually an appendix. At least to
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<p class="ydpdb57e8f6yiv6964303283MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;">Von:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;"> ripedenis@yahoo.co.uk <ripedenis@yahoo.co.uk>
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<b>Gesendet:</b> Donnerstag, 1. Oktober 2020 13:55<br clear="none">
<b>An:</b> 'db-wg@ripe.net' <db-wg@ripe.net>; Lutz Donnerhacke <L.Donnerhacke@iks-service.de><br clear="none">
<b>Betreff:</b> Re: [db-wg] MNTNER Naming : Consensus</span></p> 
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<p class="ydpdb57e8f6yiv6964303283MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:sans-serif;">Hi Lutz</span></p> 
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<p class="ydpdb57e8f6yiv6964303283MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:sans-serif;">There is no requirement for a source on a MNTNER name. So in your example the MNTNER could simply be NCC-MNT.</span></p> 
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<p class="ydpdb57e8f6yiv6964303283MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:sans-serif;">cheers</span></p> 
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<p class="ydpdb57e8f6yiv6964303283MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:sans-serif;">denis</span></p> 
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<p class="ydpdb57e8f6yiv6964303283MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;">On Thursday, 1 October 2020, 08:53:56 CEST, Lutz Donnerhacke via db-wg <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:db-wg@ripe.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">db-wg@ripe.net</a>> wrote:
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<p class="ydpdb57e8f6yiv6964303283ydp504372b2yiv8591108140msonormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#1F497D;">So the general scheme is SOURCE-NAME-FUNCTION, i.e. RIPE-NCC-MNT ?</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;"></span></p> 
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<p class="ydpdb57e8f6yiv6964303283ydp504372b2yiv8591108140msonormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;">Von:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;"> db-wg <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:db-wg-bounces@ripe.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">db-wg-bounces@ripe.net</a>>
<b>Im Auftrag von </b>William Sylvester via db-wg<br clear="none">
<b>Gesendet:</b> Mittwoch, 30. September 2020 21:44<br clear="none">
<b>An:</b> <a shape="rect" href="mailto:db-wg@ripe.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">db-wg@ripe.net</a><br clear="none">
<b>Betreff:</b> [db-wg] MNTNER Naming : Consensus</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;"></span></p> 
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<p class="ydpdb57e8f6yiv6964303283ydp504372b2yiv8591108140msonormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;">db-wg members,
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<p class="ydpdb57e8f6yiv6964303283ydp504372b2yiv8591108140msonormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;"> </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;"></span></p> 
<p class="ydpdb57e8f6yiv6964303283ydp504372b2yiv8591108140msonormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;">The chairs of the database working group believe there is a consensus to have a standardised name format for creating new
 MNTNER objects. There was talk of a prefix (MNT-) or a suffix (-MNT). When creating a new standard it doesn't really make sense to introduce a standard with multiple formats. As there are currently 36347 MNTNERs that end with -MNT and 12480 MNTNERs that start
 with MNT-, we suggest that the standard should be to end with -MNT.</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;"></span></p> 
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<p class="ydpdb57e8f6yiv6964303283ydp504372b2yiv8591108140msonormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;">We ask the RIPE NCC to take the next steps in moving this request forward, conducting an impact analysis, and proceed with
 implementation. </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;"></span></p> 
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<p class="ydpdb57e8f6yiv6964303283ydp504372b2yiv8591108140msonormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;">Best regards.
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<p class="ydpdb57e8f6yiv6964303283ydp504372b2yiv8591108140msonormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;">William & denis</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;"></span></p> 
<p class="ydpdb57e8f6yiv6964303283ydp504372b2yiv8591108140msonormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;">db-wg chairs</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;"></span></p> 
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