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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi Denis, <br>
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Thanks for your feedback.<br>
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On 02/06/17 15:32, denis walker wrote:<br>
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<div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496396781479_23651">Hi All</div>
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<div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496396781479_24453">I am a bit late
in getting into this group, but had a few pointers/concerns
sent to me.</div>
<div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496396781479_24523"><br>
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<div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496396781479_24524">I am not sure
what the goals are with trying to measure all these metrics -
gender, sexuality, religion, race, class. What are you going
to do if you find only 1% of attendees are gay? Are you going
to offer incentives to gay people attending to increase it to
the population average?</div>
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Did you watch the presentation from the plenary session on Friday
morning or read the RIPE Labs article? Those might be a good place
to start for some background info/context.<br>
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<div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496396781479_24558" dir="ltr">I am
also DEEPLY concerned at the rush to get some question(s) on
the registration form for RIPE 75. What you are asking for is
the most sensitive and personal information people can give.
With some of the countries in our region, if this information
gets into the wrong hands it can cost lives. There are
serious, serious, serious privacy concerns here.</div>
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Agree that it's sensitive info, which is why we want it to be
opt-in...and the scope of the questions we'll include is being
discussed. <br>
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<div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496396781479_24598" dir="ltr">Amanda
said "This data will only be used anonymously for metric
benchmarking."</div>
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Taken out of context a bit here, Denis. I wasn't making a statement,
I was suggesting options on text to include for background
information.<br>
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Sorry, but before we get to how this data is going to be used:</div>
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<div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496396781479_24649" dir="ltr">-how
is it going to be collected</div>
<div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496396781479_24748" dir="ltr">-who
is going to collect it<br>
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<div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496396781479_24633" dir="ltr">-how
and where will it be stored</div>
<div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496396781479_24675" dir="ltr">-who
has access to the raw data</div>
<div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496396781479_24690" dir="ltr">-how
will the sensitive data be harvested from the personally
identifiable data</div>
<div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496396781479_24706" dir="ltr">-are
there Dutch/EU data protection issues with collecting/storing
this data in an identifiable way</div>
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We have a legal team that will be involved before anything is
announced or implemented. This thread is merely to find out the
scope of a question we *could* include on the form *if possible* in
time for RIPE 75. <br>
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<div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496396781479_24739" dir="ltr">This
is not something you announce on a Thursday with a deadline
for a decision on Monday. I hope a lot more thought and care
will be applied to potentially life threatening personal
information.</div>
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Nothing's been announced. I was asking for input to include in our
discussion with SWE on Tuesday.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">cheers</div>
<div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496396781479_24824" dir="ltr">denis<br>
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