<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496597393694_4209">Hi Brian</div><div><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496597393694_4628">Thanks for the clarification. Let me first say I am not against the goals of this group. I am all for diversity and improvements. But as a member of one of the groups you are trying to 'measure' and having had to 'tread carefully' in some parts of the world and not make any obvious sign of being gay, I am deeply concerned over safety where such sensitive data is handled.</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496597393694_4576"><br></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496597393694_4478">I will wait to hear what the NCC has to suggest. From a programmatic point of view they may understand the point I want to stress here. In relation to your point below, the data must not be collected in an identifiable way and then anonymised. It must be collected anonymously. Anything short of that and, for a whole host of technical reasons, it is not anonymous.<br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496597393694_4547"><span></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496597393694_4546" class="qtdSeparateBR">(We must be getting closer to an understanding as my emails are getting shorter :) )<br><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496597393694_4716"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496597393694_4717">cheers</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496597393694_4718">denis<br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496597393694_4719"><br></div></div><div style="display: block;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496597393694_4477" class="yahoo_quoted"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496597393694_4476" style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496597393694_4475" style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, Sans-Serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496597393694_4474" class="y_msg_container"> <font id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496597393694_4486" face="Arial" size="2"> <hr size="1"> <b id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496597393694_4541"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496597393694_4540" style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Brian Nisbet <brian.nisbet@heanet.ie><br><b id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496597393694_4491"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1496597393694_4490" style="font-weight: bold;"></span></b></font><br clear="none">If the NCC are not happy they can anonymise the data or if the community <br clear="none">here aren't happy with the plan, then yes, we must pause and go back to <br clear="none">our original plan of first collecting the data at RIPE76. <br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br></div> </div> </div> </div></div></body></html>