<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div>They don't, sorry. I wrongfully interpreted our stats (100% of encrypted traffic in and out <a href="http://gmail.com" class="">gmail.com</a>) and Google's Transparency Report (<a href="https://transparencyreport.google.com/safer-email/overview?hl=en" class="">https://transparencyreport.google.com/safer-email/overview?hl=en</a>). They seem to use opportunistic encryption, not DANE. <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">That said, since their encryption levels are beyond 90% inbound and outbound, if/when they turn on DANE, it will be very interesting. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Rubens</div><div class=""><br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 8 Apr 2020, at 09:42, Ulrich Wisser via dns-wg <<a href="mailto:dns-wg@ripe.net" class="">dns-wg@ripe.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">Hi Rubens,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I wasn't aware of Gmail supporting DANE. Could you point me to some more detailed info on that?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">/Ulrich</div><div class=""><br class=""></div></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Am Mi., 8. Apr. 2020 um 11:35 Uhr schrieb Rubens Kuhl <<a href="mailto:rubensk@nic.br" class="">rubensk@nic.br</a>>:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="overflow-wrap: break-word;" class=""><br class=""><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 8 Apr 2020, at 05:39, Jim Reid <<a href="mailto:jim@rfc1035.com" target="_blank" class="">jim@rfc1035.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class=""><div class=""><div class="">Microsoft has announced Office 365 Exchange Online is going to support DNSSEC and DANE: <br class=""><br class=""><a href="https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/exchange-team-blog/support-of-dane-and-dnssec-in-office-365-exchange-online/ba-p/1275494" target="_blank" class="">https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/exchange-team-blog/support-of-dane-and-dnssec-in-office-365-exchange-online/ba-p/1275494</a><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""><div class="">DANE was already mainstream due to Gmail and to german providers, but adding MS is indeed substantial. </div><div class="">If Zoho also added, we would have all main business collaboration software in check ... <a href="https://help.zoho.com/portal/en/community/topic/will-zoho-implement-dane" target="_blank" class="">https://help.zoho.com/portal/en/community/topic/will-zoho-implement-dane</a> </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Rubens</div><div class=""><br class=""></div></div></blockquote></div>
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