<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Hi Eric,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">besides the more modern protocol design (TR-369 uses the same latest TR-181 datamodel on the CPE like TR-069) the major difference is that TR-369 allows several „controllers“ with different levels of access while TR-069 only knows one „controller“ - the ACS. Because of this design it’s possible that i.e. a smartphone app the customer uses acts as one possible controller for a TR-369 enabled CPE.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">- Peter<br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">Am 26.10.2020 um 16:34 schrieb Eric van Uden via iot-wg <<a href="mailto:iot-wg@ripe.net" class="">iot-wg@ripe.net</a>>:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Courier New" class="">Hi Eliot,</span>
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<br class=""><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Courier New" class="">I have to confess,
at the moment I have no experience with TR369. I am glad that I understand
TR69 a little. ;-) What I do know about TR369 is that it is a good basis
to keep a better eye on things in the future and to make decisions based
on the information from the CPE.</span>
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<br class=""><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial" class="">Best regards,</span>
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[iot-wg] IoT BCOP TF Document - Call for comments</span>
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<br class=""><span style=" font-size:12pt" class="">Hi Eric,</span>
<br class=""><span style=" font-size:12pt" class="">On 26.10.20 14:33, Eric van Uden via
iot-wg wrote:</span>
<br class=""><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Courier New" class="">Hi Eliot,</span><span style=" font-size:12pt" class="">
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</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Courier New" class=""><br class="">
I´m refering to the Stacked Router concept, so one CPE instead of two (stacked)
In this case, the CPE</span><span style=" font-size:12pt" class=""> </span>
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<br class=""><span style=" font-size:12pt" class="">Thanks.  It is better for a single
provider to interface with the user.  Stacked CPE should certainly
not be required, but nor should it be prohibited.  If I don't like
the pizza box my provider gives me, I might want to put something in front
of it.  In that case, the maker of that something might take responsibility
for communicating with me about what is going on in my network.  This
has an impact as to whether or not everything can be done in, say, TR.369.</span>
<br class=""><span style=" font-size:12pt" class="">Does this make sense?</span>
<br class=""><span style=" font-size:12pt" class="">Eliot</span>
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