<div dir="ltr">Mailing lists may deliver more emails to mailboxes but certainly there is a difference between amount of actual readers and receivers. <div> </div><div> </div><div>Arash</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"> <div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, May 28, 2016 at 1:22 AM, David Ponzone <<a href="mailto:david.ponzone@gmail.com" target="_blank">david.ponzone@gmail.com</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">I think it was agreed not so long ago that a forum would reduce the amount of actual readers. <div>Push works better than pull, that’s a fact.</div><div><div class="h5"> <div><blockquote type="cite"><div>Le 27 mai 2016 à 17:04, Arash Naderpour <<a href="mailto:arash.naderpour@gmail.com" target="_blank">arash.naderpour@gmail.com</a>> a écrit :</div> <div><div dir="ltr">I support a forum-style solution, not sure why we cannot have such a thing yet.<div> </div><div>Arash Naderpour <div class="gmail_extra"> <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 7:57 PM, Dominik Nowacki <<a href="mailto:dominik@clouvider.co.uk" target="_blank">dominik@clouvider.co.uk</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <div lang="EN-GB" link="blue" vlink="purple"> <div>Tough. It’s a mailing list, most people do have corporate signatures, I don’t see it changing anytime soon. We can always move from mailing lists to the forum-style solution if there is enough support for this move. Kind Regards,Domuk.clouvider From: members-discuss [mailto:<a href="mailto:members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net" target="_blank">members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net</a>] On Behalf Of Christopher Demicoli Sent: 27 May 2016 10:53 Cc: <a href="mailto:members-discuss@ripe.net" target="_blank">members-discuss@ripe.net</a> Subject: Re: [members-discuss] Bots subscribed to the list<div><div> <div>Can we also get rid of these humongous signatures? Reading a discussion now consists of scrolling past signatures in hope of finding relevant content </div> <div> <div>On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 11:47 AM, Husam Alhmoud <<a href="mailto:husam.alhmoud@jawraa.com" target="_blank">husam.alhmoud@jawraa.com</a>> wrote: <blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm"> <div> <div>Yes </div> <div> <div> <div> On May 27, 2016, at 1:45 PM, REG ID: pl.skonet <<a href="mailto:lir@skonet.pl" target="_blank">lir@skonet.pl</a>> wrote: </div> </div> </div> <div> <div> <div> <div>+1000 to forcefully unsubscribe the bots and auto-responders. Best regards Tomasz Śląski W dniu 2016-05-27 o 11:41, Elvis Daniel Velea pisze: </div> </div> </div> <blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"> <div> <div>Hi Fergal, that has never worked completely. There have always been bots and ticketing systems subscribed to the list. We can all give you a list of the bots and the email addresses that need to be forcefully unsubscribed from the members-discuss list. So, I think it's time we propose and vote to give the RIPE NCC the mandate to really maintain this mailing list and forcefully unsubscribe the bots and auto-responders. Dear members, do you agree with my idea? regards, elvis <div>On 5/27/16 11:37 AM, Fergal Cunningham wrote: </div> <blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"> <pre>Dear colleagues,</pre> <pre> </pre> <pre>We will contact the autoresponders and carry out our periodic effort to</pre> <pre>contact the responsible people.</pre> <pre> </pre> <pre>Best regards,</pre> <pre> </pre> <pre>Fergal Cunningham</pre> <pre>Membership Communications Officer</pre> <pre>RIPE NCC</pre> <pre> </pre> <pre>On 27/05/16 10:31, Husam AlHmoud wrote:</pre> <blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"> <pre>I fully agree with Dominik, it reduces the interest in reading and</pre> <pre>participating in any discussion and/or subject.</pre> <pre> </pre> <pre> </pre> <pre> </pre> <pre>Regards,</pre> <pre> </pre> <pre>* *</pre> <pre> </pre> <pre>*Husam AlHmoud*</pre> <pre> </pre> <pre>Cloud & Hosting Director</pre> <pre> </pre> <pre><a href="mailto:husam.alhmoud@jawraa.com" target="_blank">husam.alhmoud@jawraa.com</a> <a href="mailto:husam.alhmoud@jawraa.com" target="_blank"><mailto:husam.alhmoud@jawraa.com></a></pre> <pre> </pre> <pre> </pre> <pre> </pre> <pre>*From:* members-discuss [<a href="mailto:members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net" target="_blank">mailto:members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net</a>] *On</pre> <pre>Behalf Of *Dominik Nowacki</pre> <pre>*Sent:* Friday, May 27, 2016 12:27 PM</pre> <pre>*To:* <a href="mailto:members-discuss@ripe.net" target="_blank">members-discuss@ripe.net</a></pre> <pre>*Subject:* [members-discuss] Bots subscribed to the list</pre> <pre> </pre> <pre> </pre> <pre> </pre> <pre>Hi,</pre> <pre> </pre> <pre>Can I please ask RIPE staff to look at the list again and get all the</pre> <pre>bots to be unsubscribed ? It’s very disruptive to get a significant</pre> <pre>number of ticket desks, autoresponders, or mailer daemon emails every</pre> <pre>time you send anything to the discussion list…</pre> <pre> </pre> <pre> </pre> <pre> </pre> <pre>Kind Regards,</pre> <pre> </pre> <pre>Dom</pre> <pre> </pre> <pre>uk.clouvider</pre> <pre> </pre> <pre> </pre> <pre> </pre> <pre>----</pre> <pre>If you don't want to receive emails from the RIPE NCC members-discuss</pre> <pre>mailing list, please log in to your LIR Portal account and go to the general page:</pre> <pre><a href="https://lirportal.ripe.net/general/" target="_blank">https://lirportal.ripe.net/general/</a></pre> <pre> </pre> <pre>Click on "Edit my LIR details", under "Subscribed Mailing Lists". 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