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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="DE" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Von:</span></b><span lang="DE" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> members-discuss [mailto:members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net]
<b>Im Auftrag von </b>Morten Westerberg<br>
<b>Gesendet:</b> Donnerstag, 21. Juli 2016 18:27<br>
<b>An:</b> Sergiu IANCIUC <sergiu.ianciuc@itns.md>; Ping IP <pingip.network@gmail.com><br>
<b>Cc:</b> members-discuss@ripe.net<br>
<b>Betreff:</b> Re: [members-discuss] Sign-up fee for additional LIR account<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I disagree, LIR accounts are LIR accounts and they are separate entities, if you want multiple LIR accounts to hoard IPv4's, it's only fair that you pay per /22 you aquire this way. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">From: Sergiu IANCIUC <</span><a href="mailto:sergiu.ianciuc@itns.md"><span lang="EN-US">sergiu.ianciuc@itns.md</span></a><span lang="EN-US">>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Date: 7/21/16 12:14 (GMT-05:00) <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Subject: Re: [members-discuss] Sign-up fee for additional LIR account
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<p>salut Ping,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>agree with you, the additional LIR account have to be 50% from the first sign-up<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>Best Regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span class="rvts7">Hello,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span class="rvts7">A recent change has been made in the Billing and Fee Schedule 2016 , regarding the following sentence: "Members are charged a one-time sign-up fee of EUR 2,000 (two thousand euro) for each new LIR account."</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span class="rvts7">I'd like to discuss why an existing LIR member has to pay the sign-up fee again? As a new small LIR I'm paying a high price for a /22 IPv4. I think it's disproportionately to charge the sign-up fee again from an existing LIR member who
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<p><span class="rvts7">I'd like to suggest to remove the one-time sign-up fee of EUR 2,000 for each additional LIR account. Or at least lower the sign-up fee to an acceptable rate.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span class="rvts7">I'm not talking about the sign-up fee for a new LIR member, but about the sign-up fee for an additional LIR account.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span class="rvts7">Thanks for discussing this subject.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span class="rvts7">Best regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span class="rvts7">Abdelouahed Haitoute</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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