So you own a piece of land and want to sell a small part of that land to someone, so you agree on a price, sign a contract, pay VAT on the transaction, and now the land sold more belongs to the buyer. Contract law 101. Now let's apply your logic: so you own a piece of land and want to sell a small piece of that land to someone, so you agree on a price, sign a contract, pay VAT on the transaction, and now the land belongs to someone else who the buyer now leases it of for a fee. Now correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think that would make sense to a lawyer. -Tim <div class="gmail_extra"> <div class="gmail_quote">On 26 Sep 2016 10:48 p.m., "Radu-Adrian Feurdean" <<a href="mailto:ripe-ncc@radu-adrian.feurdean.net">ripe-ncc@radu-adrian.feurdean.net</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On Wed, Sep 14, 2016, at 17:16, Hank Nussbacher wrote: > Acquiring small bits of legacy IP space to bypass LIR membership dues > and to then be entitled to get more IP address space goes totally > against the spirit of RIPE and I totally approve the Executive Board's > decision and would recommend even further sanctions against those that > have done it. Could someone remind us why in the first place: - a legacy block can be broken into smaller pieces (which can then be transferred) - after the transfer, the parts of the old legacy block still remain tagged as legacy - what stops the "convert to PA" (or PI, whatever) from being a prerequisite to a transfer (or even to a split of the original legacy block) - more generally why the stance of "giving full rights to legacy holders", but with only voluntary respect of the obligations I can understand that a legacy space holder can keep the space "received" before the existence of the NCC, but not the fact that others can acquire that kind of space and pretend to the same treatment. -- Radu-Adrian FEURDEAN ---- If you don't want to receive emails from the RIPE NCC members-discuss mailing list, please log in to your LIR Portal account and go to the general page: <a href="https://lirportal.ripe.net/general/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lirportal.ripe.net/general/</a> Click on "Edit my LIR details", under "Subscribed Mailing Lists". From here, you can add or remove addresses. </blockquote></div></div>