<html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:m="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"> <meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 15 (filtered medium)"> <style></style> </head> <body lang="EN-IE" link="blue" vlink="purple"> <div class="WordSection1"> <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Hi, <o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <ul style="margin-top:0cm" type="disc"> <li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">This document refers to <a href="https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-682#2-2-transfer-restrictions"> https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-682#2-2-transfer-restrictions</a> where you can read next:<br> <o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:#333333;background:white">This restriction does not prevent the resources from being transferred due to further mergers or acquisitions within the 24-month period.</span><o:p></o:p></li></ul> <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">The RIPE NCC will ask proof of an actual M&A documented by a legal party as a notary in case an actual M&A has occurred. <o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">The RIPE policy can’t over-rule actual business decisions like an M&A and with any normal business M&A this is properly documented between parties, typically with a full agreement from lawyers. And that kind of documentation is required. <o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">If the documentation can’t be produced, because the party is just trying to trick the system (to sell their just received IP resources), the restriction apply. <o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">This was decided by the community (not ‘just’ decided by the RIPE NCC or the Exec Board) when the Transfer policy was presented and discussed. <o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Erik Bais<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Author of the Transfer policy : <a href="https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-682"> https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-682</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"> <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">members-discuss <members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net> on behalf of Фри Дата <freedatas@yandex.ru><br> <b>Date: </b>Wednesday 12 December 2018 at 13:37<br> <b>To: </b>"members-discuss@ripe.net" <members-discuss@ripe.net><br> <b>Subject: </b>Re: [members-discuss] Change of conditions<o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal">Hi.<o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal">I agree with Alexey. Also I want to pay attention on <a href="https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-709#transfer35"> https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-709#transfer35</a>. <o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal">This document refers to <a href="https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-682#2-2-transfer-restrictions"> https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-682#2-2-transfer-restrictions</a> where you can read next:<br> <o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:#333333;background:white">This restriction does not prevent the resources from being transferred due to further mergers or acquisitions within the 24-month period.</span><o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:#333333;background:white">But dear RIPE tells that they cannot transfer the resources in case of change the business structure because of 24 month restriction. How can we understand it?</span><o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal">12.12.2018, 13:03, "Aleksey Bulgakov" <aleksbulgakov@gmail.com>:<o:p></o:p></p> </div> <blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"> <p>Dear all.<br> <br> I would like to ask you one question.<br> <br> If one company open account in June 2018, but respected executive<br> board decides to implement restrictions in September - should the<br> company to apply this restrictions?<br> <br> I mean the document <a href="https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-709#transfer35"> https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-709#transfer35</a><o:p></o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal">-- <br> ----------<br> Best regards,<br> Alexey Bulgakov<o:p></o:p></p> <p><br> _______________________________________________<br> members-discuss mailing list<br> <a href="mailto:members-discuss@ripe.net">members-discuss@ripe.net</a><br> <a href="https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss">https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss</a><br> Unsubscribe: <a href="https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/freedatas%40yandex.ru"> https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/freedatas%40yandex.ru</a><o:p></o:p></p> </blockquote> </div> </body> </html>