<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">I'm aware of the GM vote and resolution 1, but in my opinion there was a clear lack for Option C (redistribute 100%)…<br class=""><div><br class=""></div><div>Thanks</div><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">Am 26.02.2020 um 19:58 schrieb Schnabeltier <<a href="mailto:ripe-member-discuss@cidr.eu" class="">ripe-member-discuss@cidr.eu</a>>:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div style="font-family: Arial; text-align: left; font-size: 14px;" class="">> I can‘t understand why the surplus redistribution in 2019 had been EUR 567,52 and in 2020 it’s only</div><div style="font-family: Arial; text-align: left; font-size: 14px;" class="">> EUR 353,82 per LIR. This does not match with the actual new-LIR development figures in 2019</div><div style="font-family: Arial; text-align: left; font-size: 14px;" class="">> according to <a href="https://labs.ripe.net/statistics/number-of-lirs" class="">https://labs.ripe.net/statistics/number-of-lirs</a></div><div style="font-family: Arial; text-align: left; font-size: 14px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="font-family: Arial; text-align: left; font-size: 14px;" class="">Because only 50% was redistributed this year:</div><div style="font-family: Arial; text-align: left; font-size: 14px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="text-align: left;" class=""><span style="font-size: 14px;" class="">“The General Meeting approves that 50% of the RIPE NCC 2019 financial surplus will be</span></div><div style="text-align: left;" class=""><span style="font-size: 14px;" class="">added to the Clearing House reserve and 50% of the RIPE NCC 2019 financial surplus</span></div><div style="text-align: left;" class=""><span style="font-size: 14px;" class="">will be redistributed to the membership in 2020.”</span></div><div style="font-family: Arial; text-align: left; font-size: 14px;" class=""><a href="https://www.ripe.net/publications/news/announcements/ripe-ncc-general-meeting-october-2019" class="">https://www.ripe.net/publications/news/announcements/ripe-ncc-general-meeting-october-2019</a></div><div style="font-family: Arial; text-align: left; font-size: 14px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="font-family: Arial; text-align: left; font-size: 14px;" class="">Kind Regards,</div><div style="font-family: Arial; text-align: left; font-size: 14px;" class="">Schnabeltier<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><hr style="border: 0; border-bottom: 1px solid #DADADA;" class=""><b class="">From:</b> Dominic Schallert <<a href="x-msg://1/email/new/1/ds%40schallert.com" class="">ds@schallert.com</a>><br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b> Wednesday, 26. Feb 2020 – 19:38 CET +0100<br class=""><b class="">To:</b> <a href="x-msg://1/email/new/1/members-discuss%40ripe.net" class="">members-discuss@ripe.net</a><br class=""><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b> Re: [members-discuss] Membership Fee Question<br class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">
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<meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><span class="">I can‘t understand why the surplus redistribution in 2019 had been EUR 567,52 and in 2020 it’s only EUR 353,82 per LIR. This does not match with the actual new-LIR development figures in 2019 according to </span><a href="https://labs.ripe.net/statistics/number-of-lirs" class="">https://labs.ripe.net/statistics/number-of-lirs</a></div><div dir="ltr" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="ltr" class="">Regards</div><div dir="ltr" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="ltr" class=""><span class=""></span><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="">Am 26.02.2020 um 15:26 schrieb Radu-Adrian Feurdean <<a href="mailto:ripe-ncc@radu-adrian.feurdean.net" class="">ripe-ncc@radu-adrian.feurdean.net</a>>:</span><br class=""></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="">On Mon, Feb 24, 2020, at 21:41, Arash Naderpour wrote:</span><br class=""></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="">It doesn't looks fair to me, but you need to see enough support from</span><br class=""></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="">the memebers to change it, NCC also like easy money, same as many of</span><br class=""></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="">others.</span><br class=""></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class=""></span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="">...and as most of its members who do enjoy the redistribution (when there is one) the next year.</span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class=""></span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="">Back to the initial question, the membership fee *IS* pro-rated when you *open* the LIR, sometimes to the advantage of the new member (not including an extra quarter for up to 2 or 3 weeks only).</span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class=""></span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="">If you perform a merger via "M&A Process", the rules are pretty clear that both LIRs involved need to be with membership fees paid. Even if you would manage to propose a resolution to change this, I'm not sure it will pass.</span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class=""></span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="">-- </span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="">Radu-Adrian FEURDEAN</span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class=""></span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="">_______________________________________________</span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="">members-discuss mailing list</span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class=""><a href="mailto:members-discuss@ripe.net" class="">members-discuss@ripe.net</a></span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class=""><a href="https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss" class="">https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss</a></span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="">Unsubscribe: <a href="https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/ds%40schallert.com" class="">https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/ds%40schallert.com</a></span><br class=""></blockquote></div>
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