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<p>Hi Elad, it's me again, one of your favourite illegals.</p>
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<p>You are a candidate for the Board of RIPE. <br>
<br>
as a RIPE board member you should be able to actually have a
discussion with people, to engage in disputes in a constructive
way, instead you instantly pick a fight, and try to fight everyone
who does not agree with your points.</p>
<p>You ask that Members here -� which are most likely other members
of LIRS which have as much a right to state their opinion, "stay
quiet" - or you suggest to remove them from the mailinglist. <br>
</p>
<p><br>
This clearly does not look good for you, Elad - leave the
accusations away, you are definitely not displaying any leadership
qualities which would be required as board of RIPE. <br>
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<p><br>
So, accusations against you, you ask for proof.</p>
<p>You yourself state accusations against RIPE Board ("corruption")
but you do not provide any proof.<br>
<br>
All I can see is a guy, who tries to get elected because he really
desperately needs something in his CV, and because the chances
might be thin (you haven't even bothered to bring any CV or
something up, while at least 3 candidates actually put in the
effort so we can judge what they have done in the past. You share
nothing of your past, what you have done, where you have
participated. instead you try to push your campaign by pushing
your own ideas on an unsuitable platform.<br>
<br>
I agree that "even bad publicity can be some publicity" - but it
will not help you on your election because at this rate, the only
vote you get is your own word. <br>
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<p>I know you will find again great words to reply, it will greatly
amuse me.</p>
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<p>trust me, if you start picking fights with everyone, people will
start digging and open up a case with the arbiter under clause <strong>1.2.1.1
section 2<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/26/20 7:15 PM, Elad Cohen wrote:<br>
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If the Spamhaus fans will be quiet in their corner then tomorrow
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Brown <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:dsb@orbital.net"><dsb@orbital.net></a><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, April 26, 2020 10:13 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Elad Cohen <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:elad@netstyle.io"><elad@netstyle.io></a>; href
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [members-discuss] Technical Solution to
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<div style="direction:ltr">Elad it�s great you have so many
ideas but this is getting a bit silly now, go and take a
break , have a drink and put in a film. It�s Sunday
evening , chill out
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behalf of Elad Cohen <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:elad@netstyle.io"><elad@netstyle.io></a><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, April 26, 2020 8:09:09 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> href <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:href@fastmail.net"><href@fastmail.net></a>;
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:members-discuss@ripe.net">members-discuss@ripe.net</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:members-discuss@ripe.net"><members-discuss@ripe.net></a><br>
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"I had no idea that you may have been involved in the Cape
Town hijack!"</div>
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The cyber influence operation continue... complete lies
without a single proof, can anyone show a single proof ?</div>
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Are you so scared from me being elected ? that you need to
spread lies ?</div>
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I'm highly honored that the illegal anonymous organization
"The Spamhaus Project" decided to attack me, it means a lot.<br>
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Lets see who is the Spamhaus fan that will jump now.<br>
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Respectfully,</div>
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Elad<br>
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color="#000000"><b>From:</b> href
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<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, April 26, 2020 10:01 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Elad Cohen <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:elad@netstyle.io"><elad@netstyle.io></a>;
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:members-discuss@ripe.net">members-discuss@ripe.net</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:members-discuss@ripe.net"><members-discuss@ripe.net></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [members-discuss] Technical Solution
to resolve the global "Email Spam" problem</font>
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<p>Elad,</p>
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<p>Some members sent some additional information about you:
I can now understand your replies: I had no idea that you
may have been involved in the Cape Town hijack!</p>
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</p>
<p>Please forget about my badly chosen example. Accusations
aside, it is time to get serious and I'll re-iterate my
original question: what are your thoughts and technical
solutions about IP hijacking (not the Cape town one) ?</p>
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<div class="x_x_x_moz-cite-prefix">On 4/26/20 8:23 PM, Elad
Cohen wrote:<br>
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Jordan,<br>
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What you are writing is false, telling a lie again and
again will not make it truth.<br>
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"if I remember that there was some IP space from Cape
Town city that got hijacked" - I'll be happy if you
can also remember a single proof for it and to display
it here now ? (I mean a proof - not an employee of of
a direct competitor which is also a member of the
illegal anonymous organization "The Spamhaus Project"
and also the owner of that illegal anonymous twitter
account:
<a href="https://twitter.com/underthebreach"
target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"
moz-do-not-send="true">
https://twitter.com/underthebreach</a>� - he is also
a cyber influence master according to himself - it
means that he is a master in telling lies and creating
a fake story without a single proof in order to
influence public opinion - exactly like what you are
doing now)<br>
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font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">
And yes, I did found a technical solution for your
criminals at "The Spamhaus Project" that there are
many complaints about them worldwide - and the Law
Enforcement Agencies are doing nothing regarding them
only because they illegaly share (without any warrant)
on a regular basis and in a systematic way massive
amount of illegaly-obtained privacy data of internet
users with the Law Enforcement Agencies as you can see
that they wrote on themselves in their own words in
the following link:<br>
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<a
href="https://www.scribd.com/document/445894312/Spamhaus-Illegal-Private-Data-Violation"
target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.scribd.com/document/445894312/Spamhaus-Illegal-Private-Data-Violation</a><br>
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font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">
"The Spamhaus Project" mob friends just like you are
very very afraid from me according to their attention
to me - and they are afraid from me because I cannot
be bought, because what they are doing is illegal,
because I will keep saying it loudly again and again
and again.<br>
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Can you show a single proof to what you are writing?
You are taking part in an illegal cyber influence
operation against me.<br>
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Respectfully,<br>
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Elad</div>
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color="#000000"><b>From:</b> Jordan Bracco
<a class="x_x_x_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:href@fastmail.net"
moz-do-not-send="true"><href@fastmail.net></a><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, April 26, 2020 9:14 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Elad Cohen <a
class="x_x_x_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:elad@netstyle.io"
moz-do-not-send="true">
<elad@netstyle.io></a>; <a
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href="mailto:members-discuss@ripe.net"
moz-do-not-send="true">
members-discuss@ripe.net</a> <a
class="x_x_x_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:members-discuss@ripe.net"
moz-do-not-send="true">
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Solution to resolve the global "Email Spam" problem</font>
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<div>Elad,<br>
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<div>I do not see what you mean by "telling a lie again
and again". I have a vague memory of something fishy
going on with a Cape Town ip block, but there was many
occurences like this. I cited Cape Town as an example.
I do not have proof, so maybe the Cape Town is a false
memory, but IP hijacking (which was the subject of my
email, not Cape Town) surely do happen.<br>
</div>
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<div>For the rest of your reply-- I just simply do not
understand it.<br>
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<div><br>
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<div>�- I fail to see a correlation between hijacking IP
space and Spamhaus. Could you please enlighten me ?<br>
</div>
<div>�- I also fail to understand what you mean by "mob
friends just like you". I have no relationship
whatsoever with SpamHaus, I do not use their DNSBLs
(as I delegate most of my emails to Fastmail).<br>
</div>
<div><br>
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<div>I was just asking for your thoughts and technical
solutions to IP space hijacking. Your reply turned
into a rant about Spamhaus (?) and accusing me of
being "mob friend" of it (?) ?<br>
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<div>On Sun, Apr 26, 2020, at 19:46, Elad Cohen wrote:<br>
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Jordan,<br>
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<br>
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<div
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What you are writing is false, telling a lie again
and again will not make it truth.<br>
</div>
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font-size:12pt; color:#000000">
<br>
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style="font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;
font-size:12pt; color:#000000">
"if I remember that there was some IP space from
Cape Town city that got hijacked" - I'll be happy if
you can also remember a single proof for it and to
display it here now ? (I mean a proof - not an
employee of of a direct competitor which is also a
member of the illegal anonymous organization "The
Spamhaus Project" and also the owner of that illegal
anonymous twitter account:
<a href="https://twitter.com/underthebreach"
id="x_x_x_x_qt-LPNoLP991130"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://twitter.com/underthebreach</a>�
- he is also a cyber influence master according to
himself - it means that he is a master in telling
lies and creating a fake story without a single
proof in order to influence public opinion - exactly
like what you are doing now)<br>
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<div><br>
</div>
<div
style="font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;
font-size:12pt; color:#000000">
And yes, I did found a technical solution for your
criminals at "The Spamhaus Project" that there are
many complaints about them worldwide - and the Law
Enforcement Agencies are doing nothing regarding
them only because they illegaly share (without any
warrant) on a regular basis and in a systematic way
massive amount of illegaly-obtained privacy data of
internet users with the Law Enforcement Agencies as
you can see that they wrote on themselves in their
own words in the following link:<br>
</div>
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font-size:12pt; color:#000000">
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font-size:12pt; color:#000000">
<a
href="https://www.scribd.com/document/445894312/Spamhaus-Illegal-Private-Data-Violation"
id="x_x_x_x_qt-LPNoLP562070"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.scribd.com/document/445894312/Spamhaus-Illegal-Private-Data-Violation</a><br>
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<div
style="font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;
font-size:12pt; color:#000000">
"The Spamhaus Project" mob friends just like you are
very very afraid from me according to their
attention to me - and they are afraid from me
because I cannot be bought, because what they are
doing is illegal, because I will keep saying it
loudly again and again and again.<br>
</div>
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font-size:12pt; color:#000000">
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font-size:12pt; color:#000000">
Respectfully,<br>
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font-size:12pt; color:#000000">
Elad<br>
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class="x_x_x_x_colour" style="color:#000000"><b>From:</b>
members-discuss
<a class="x_x_x_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net"
moz-do-not-send="true">
<members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net></a>
on behalf of Jordan Bracco <a
class="x_x_x_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:href@fastmail.net"
moz-do-not-send="true">
<href@fastmail.net></a><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, April 26, 2020 8:23 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a
class="x_x_x_moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:members-discuss@ripe.net"
moz-do-not-send="true">
members-discuss@ripe.net</a> <a
class="x_x_x_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:members-discuss@ripe.net"
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [members-discuss]
Technical Solution to resolve the global
"Email Spam" problem</span></span>
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<div>�<br>
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<div>
<div>Dear Elad,<br>
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<div><br>
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<div>Unrelated to the spam proposal-- but have you
found a technical solution to avoid malicious
third parties to hijack assigned IP space (for
example, if I remember that there was some IP
space from Cape Town city that got hijacked). What
are you thoughts on this, and your technical
solution to it ?<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>On Sun, Apr 26, 2020, at 18:05, Elad Cohen
wrote:<br>
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<div><span>Hello Everyone,</span><br>
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<div><br>
</div>
<div>I want to share with you my technical
solution to resolve the global world "Email
Spam" problem and in addition it will also
resolve the spreading of illegal links
(phishing/malware/etc , once the sites are
known) through electronic mail and will stop
email spoofing (that part using current
technologies).<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Email spam problem was not being able to be
defeated since the beginning of electronic
mail, as long as email spam will be profitable
to email spammers - it will exist, email spam
caused the illegal anonymous organization "The
Spamhaus Project" to exist, "The Spamhaus
Project" is hurting and damaging many
businesses worldwide in their way to fight
email spam, "The Spamhaus Project" is an
illegal anonymous organization according to
the following presentation that they wrote on
themselves, they are violating laws in their
way to fight email spam and still they don't
win in the battle against email spam. "The
Spamhaus Project" is keeping their anonymity
because they are afriad of justified lawsuits
due to their criminal actions in their way to
fight email spam. The following technical
solution will resolve the world email spam
problem without to hurt and to damage many
businesses worldwide that have nothing to do
with email spam like "The Spamhaus Project"
does, the following implementation can remove
the need for an illegal anonymous organization
such as "The Spamhaus Project".<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>The presentation that the illegal anonymous
organization "The Spamhaus Project" wrote on
themselves:<br>
</div>
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</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>The Implementation:<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>There will be a site (lets call it
NoSpam.org) - the site will be owned by the 5
RIRs, the site will use bgp anycast and will
be deployed in each of the 5 RIRs (the site
will also be able to be deployed by the ccTLD
registries in each country), the site in all
the locations will be synced automatically.<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Each domain owner will be able to register
at the site (an email message will be sent to
the domain owner email address in the domain
name WHOIS details in order to verify that the
domain owner is the one registering).<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>After being logged in, a domain owner will
be able to add his email addresses (of the
specific domain name) that will be used to
send newsletters / mailing lists / one-to-many
email messages, lets call these kind of email
addresses as 'mailing list' email addresses.
The domain owner will not be able to see the
list of 'mailing list' email addresses that he
added - because when he added each 'mailing
list' email address it will be saved with hash
in the NoSpam.org backend infrastructure (due
to privacy and security reasons) - hence only
if the domain owner will manually type the
'mailing list' email address he will be able
to enter it in order to manage it (to see the
total number of subscribers email addresses,
to see the subscribers email addresses but
only with their hashes due to security and
privacy reasons, to remove a subscriber from
the list, to add a sub-user with permissions
to manage that specific 'mailing list' email
address).<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>In his site, the domain owner will be able
to integrate an iframe from NoSpam.org (or to
connect to NoSpam.org with ajax) regarding a
subscriber registration form to his specific
'mailing list' email address, the subscriber
will receive an email message with a link to
confirm his subscription.<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>The domain owner will need to create a
callback file in his website, for example in
the path: "/nospam-notification-callback" (<a
class="x_x_x_moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://example.com/nospam-notification-callback"
moz-do-not-send="true">http://example.com/nospam-notification-callback</a>)
- that url will receive encrypted post
notifications (encryption key will be provided
by the domain owner in his NoSpam.org logged
in account) from NoSpam.org regarding any new
end-user that will subscribe or that will
unsubscribe from a 'mailing address' email
address which is related to the domain of the
domain owner (unsubscribe functionality by the
user later below).<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>The subscriber email address and that
'mailing list' email address (that was
subscribed to) will be sent by NoSpam.org to
"/nospam-notification-callback" not in the
hashed format but in cleartext (so the domain
owner will be able to save it in his system
for future email messages from the specific
'mailing list' email address to the specific
subscriber email address).<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>The domain owner will also have an API to
NoSpam.org backend infrastructure in order to
remove a specific subscriber email address
from a specific 'mailing list' email address
(the domains owner will send the values
through the API - hashed).<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>The domain owner will also provide a web
interface in his site for the end-user to
remove himself from the specific 'mailing
list' email address.<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>The above is the backend implementation (no
upgrade is needed to any email server in the
internet), the following is the upgrade that
will needed for any email client (that upgrade
is not mandatory, without the following
upgrade the email client will work exactly as
it is now without the added no-spam features,
electronic mail will not break if some email
users will upgrade their email clients and
some will not):<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>- There will not be 'mark as spam' button,
that kind of functionality will stop to exist
because spam is not a boolean value, 'spam' to
one person is valuable to another 'person',
specially when the internet is global and
different people from different countries will
consider spam content differently. One user
can consider an email message as spam and
another user can consider the same message as
not spam, 'Spam' is subjective and any kind of
'mark as spam' functionality is useless in the
battle against email spam.<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>- There will be blacklists and whitelists
(just like there are now, but they will be
more prominent): blacklist email addresses ,
blacklist domains , whitelist email addresses
, whitelist domains.<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>- The end-user should be able to easily
enter each email message to whitelist or to
blacklist (meaning the 'from' email address of
the email message), and will be able to search
in the 'Spam' folder easily for an email
address (these features can exist today, but
they should be given more visibility, so
end-users will use them more).<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>- The end-user will be able to
import/export his whitelists and blacklists
using an xml format to any other upgraded
email client, the blacklists and whitelists
will be local (end-user will be able to pass
the local whitelists and blacklists to another
email client of his with the click of a button
in the upgraded email client - the upgraded
email client will just send them to itself -
without to download them from the email server
so the end-user will be able to download it
with another upgraded email client - or the
end-user will be able to send the whitelists
and blacklists to another email address of
him, the usage will not be like sending
regular email message with attachments - the
upgraded email clients will take care to
sending and receiving of the blacklists and
whitelits - in the background, these are
custom formatted email messages that the two
upgraded email clients will know how to act
upon them).<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>- The email client will be able to display
with GUI with buttons any 'mailing-list
registration confirmation email' in a specific
section related to registration to new
'mailing list' email addresses for the
end-user to choose with buttons if he accept
or refuse to register to a specific 'mailing
list' email address.<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>- For any email message that was received:
in case a received 'from' email address was
found in the whitelist email addresses or in
the whitelist domains - then it will be moved
to the 'Inbox' folder, in case the 'from'
email address of the email message was found
in the blacklist email addresses or in the
blacklist domains - then the email message
will be moved to the 'Trash' folder.<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>- In case the 'from' email address or
domain was not found in the whitelists and in
the blacklists, then the upgraded email client
will send the 'from' email address and the
'from' domain and the current user email
address and the external links that exist in
the email message (but all of these data will
be sent in a hashed way, and not in cleartext)
with a query to NoSpam.org backend
infrastructure, NoSpam.org will perform the
following algorithem after it:<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>- If the hashed 'from' domain (or any other
'hashed' domain from the external links) exist
in a list of criminals hashed domains (of
phishing/malware/viruses/etc) then NoSpam.org
will respond to the email client to delete the
email message, otherwise the hashed 'from'
email address will be checked against a list
of hashed 'mailing list' email addresses - if
found then the sender is a 'mailing list'
email address and there will be a check by
NoSpam.org backend infrastructure if the
hashed 'receiver' email address is a
subscriber of that specific 'mailing list'
email address , if the hashed 'receiver' was
found then NoSpam.org will send a response to
the email client that the email message can be
displayed in the 'Inbox' folder and in the
response NoSpam.org will also include an
unsubscribe key - the email client will be
able to display an unsubscribe button to the
email client and if clicked the email client
will send an https request to NoSpam.org with
the specific unsubscribe key, NoSpam.org
backend infrastructure will remove the
end-user email address from the 'mailing list'
email address and will notify the domain owner
at the domain owner callback url
"/nospam-notification-callback" that the
specific user unsubscribed. In case the hashed
'receiver' wasn't found then NoSpam.org will
respond to the email client to delete the
email message and NoSpam.org will also notify
the callback url of the related domain owner
that he shouldn't send email messages from the
specific 'mailing �list' email address to the
specific subscriber email address.<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>- In case when NoSpam.org backend
infrastructure searched the hashed 'from'
email address and it wasn't found in the list
of all hashed 'mailing list' email addresses,
it mean that the email address was sent from a
'personal' email address and NoSpam.org
backend infrastructure will notify the email
client that the email message is from a
'personal' email address - the email client in
that stage will need to decide if to move the
email message to the 'Inbox' folder or to the
'Spam' folder based on the following - the
email client will check if the email message
include links/images/plain-url's - and if yes
then the email message will be moved to the
'Spam' folder, otherwise it will be moved to
the 'Inbox' folder.<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Whitelist Handshake:<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>- In order to facilitate the adding of new
email address to the local whitelist, a
process of 'Whitelist Handshake' exist , a
'Whitelist Handshake' is a GUI representation
in two email clients regarding background
email messages between them (that the two
end-users don't see), "end-user A" with a
click of a button will be able to send 'add me
to whitelist' request to "end-user B" which
will be able to accept or deny and if accepted
then "end-user B" will be able to
automatically send the same "add me to
whitelist" request to "end-user A" , all of
this communication will be done behind the
scenes, these special email messages will not
be visible to the end-users, end-users will
see popups with GUI that email address X is
asking to be added to whitelist. In order for
spammers not to abuse this option - the email
client will keep only one 'whitelist request'
from each requester email address (there will
be a 'whitelist requests' section in the
upgraded email client). A repeated 'whitelist
request' that came from a specific email
address can never be raised in the list
(unless the end-user will specifically search
for it) even when the sender will send more
and more 'add me to whitelist' requests - no
priority will given to them, and once an
end-user refused an 'add me to whitelist'
request - no new 'add me to whitelist' request
will be shown from the specific sender email
address in the specific email client.<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>- There can be a case that an upgraded
email client will send 'add me to whitelist'
request to a not-upgraded email client and
then the receiver will see the request as it
is - as an email message in the inbox folder -
due to it the content of that message will be
in the language of the domain TLD of the
receiver email address and the content in the
email message will explain what is NoSpam.org
and how to upgrade the email client and
supported upgraded email clients, etc<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>- In the 'whitelist requests section' in
the upgraded email client - the whitelist
requests will appear in a list - there should
be preference so some requests will appear
upper and other lower (so requests from
spammers will appear lower) - whitelist
requests from email addresses of domains which
are older (according to their WHOIS details)
will appear upper than whitelist requests from
email addresses of domains which are newer.
Whitelist requests from a list of a
more-trusted-domains (domains of known
webmails service, universities, governments,
etc) will have preference over other domains,
specific TLDs that not anyone can purchase
will also have preference over other TLDs that
anyone can purchase (upgraded email clients
will retrieve the list of trusted TLD's and
Domains each day from NoSpam.org backend
infrastructure).<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Notification of spam emails:<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>- An additional feature in the upgraded
email client is that whenever an email message
will reach the 'Spam' folder - the email
client will send in the background a
known-format email message to the sender and
will notify him about it, if the sender is
using an upgraded email client then it will be
able to automatically send a 'add me to
whitelist' request to the receiver in the
background (once an email address is
whitelisted - all the email messages from it
will move from 'Spam' to 'Inbox').<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Email Spoofing:<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>- In an upgraded email client, email
messages from 'personal' email addresses
cannot arrive from email relay server, in case
it happen the message will be deleted and the
email client will send an automatic email
message in the background to the sender with
the text (in the language of the sender domain
TLD) that email messages from 'email relay
servers' cannot be received from him.<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>- In an upgraded email client, email
messages from 'mailing list' email addresses
can arrive from email relay servers - but they
must be encrypted with DKIM.<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>- In an upgraded email client, the email
client should check the SPF txt dns record of
the sender domain, and will drop the email
message if it is a spoofed email message.<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>- DNS servers developers will need to make
the SPF txt dns record to be a mandatory field
for every domain, in order for email spoofing
to be annihilated.<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Security Aspects:<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>- All stored data in NoSpam.org Backend
infrastructure is hashed.<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>- The criminals domains list in NoSpam.org
Backend Infrastructure will be managed only by
regulated supervised Law Enforcement Agency
(for example: Interpol) and not by an internet
organization such as the RIRs or ccTLD
registries.<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>- Domains owners will have 'forgot
password' functionality to their NoSpam.org
account, the password reset link will be sent
to the email address of the owner of the
domain according to the domain WHOIS details.<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>- Communication between email clients to
NoSpam.org backend infrastructure will be over
https, there will only be an handshake process
in the beginning over electronic mail between
email client and NoSpam.org backend
infrastructure - the email client will send an
email message with a chosen key to an email
address of @nospam.org (that key will be used
in further communication between the email
client and the NoSpam.org backend
infrastructure over https, it will be used for
NoSpam.org backend infrastructure to identify
the specific email address over https, so
anyone will not be able to query NoSpam.org
backend infrastructure to know which hashed
email address belongs to which hashed 'mailing
list' email address, besides the email client
user with the right key to query NoSpam.org
Backend infrastructure only on himself).<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>- Any email client will download once per
day 'spam-rules' file from NoSpam.org backend
infrastructure, 'spam-rules' file will be an
xml formatted file that include rules of when
to move an email message that was received
from 'personal' email address which is not
whitelisted to the 'Spam' folder (for example,
when email have at least 1/2/3 links, when
email format is rich text or html and not
plaintext, etc), in case future adjustments
will be needed to win the battle against email
spam - email clients will not need to be
upgraded, the new 'spam-rules' will be updated
in this daily file.<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>To make it short:<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>- Any email message from a subscribed
mailing list / newsletter / etc - will reach
to the inbox (that kind of email messages can
contain any kind of content without any
restrictions, because the user subscribed to
it and the user can unsubscribe from it at
anytime).<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>- Any email message from an email address
or domain in whitelist - will reach the inbox.<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>- Whitelist Handshake process is easy to
use and being implemented with clicks of a
button, nothing to type.<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>- In case an email message will the 'Spam'
folder - an automatic email message will be
sent from the receiver to sender and sender
can automatically ask to be added to the
receiver's whitelist.<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>- Any email message without
links/images/plain-url's (plain email
messages, like electronic email was) - will
reach the inbox.<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>- Any other email will reach the 'Spam'
folder - if needed the user will be able to
easily whitelist the email message in the
'Spam' folder.<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Spammers need links in their email messages
for monetization, above solution blocks it and
also block criminal domains links in email
message and implement email spoofing blocking
at client-side. We will all stop to receive
more than 100 spam email messages per day with
the above solution.<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Respectfully,<br>
</div>
<div>Elad<br>
</div>
<div><span></span><br>
</div>
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