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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">El 27/4/20 a las 13:14, Cynthia
Revström escribió:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Elad, please send me an archive link to the
specific email on a RIPE/RIPE NCC mailing list where RFG called
you a rude name.
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<div>- Cynthia</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 1:12
PM Elad Cohen <<a href="mailto:elad@netstyle.io"
moz-do-not-send="true">elad@netstyle.io</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div
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called me with antisemitic names many times and on many
working groups and you said nothing, you claim not to see
his messages, but you clearly saw all of my messages and
you are monitoring me pretty well. I'm sorry but I don't
believe you, specially when you are attacking me
personally so heavily with distorting the facts. You
clearly so the word coconut - so you also saw what I
shared on the same post that he wrote on other groups of
people and that he was called a racist and an antisemitic
- but you decided to ignore this as well, so you didn't
read my whole post - you read only the word 'coconut' and
you decided to jump in ?</div>
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<div
style="font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Cynthia,
please spread your lies somewhere else.<br>
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<div
style="font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Respectfully,</div>
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style="font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Elad<br>
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<div id="gmail-m_7564215560973186957divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font
style="font-size:11pt" face="Calibri, sans-serif"
color="#000000"><b>From:</b> Cynthia Revström <<a
href="mailto:me@cynthia.re" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">me@cynthia.re</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 27, 2020 2:05 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Elad Cohen <<a
href="mailto:elad@netstyle.io" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">elad@netstyle.io</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:members-discuss@ripe.net"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">members-discuss@ripe.net</a>
<<a href="mailto:members-discuss@ripe.net"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">members-discuss@ripe.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [members-discuss] Regarding Elad
Cohen's nomination and emails</font>
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<div dir="ltr">Elad, first of all, I am not an employee or
in any way related to Spamhaus, and I doubt many of the
people you have suggested are part of it have anything
to do with it either.
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<div>And because I have things to do that are not
spending my entire days on RIPE mailing lists I guess
I missed RFG calling you names, but I will assure you
that if I was on those discussions I would call him
out if he called you a "coconut" or similar.</div>
<div>Also just because someone has called you names on
mailing lists doesn't mean you get to call them names
on mailing lists.</div>
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<div>- Cynthia</div>
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<div dir="ltr">On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 12:58 PM Elad
Cohen <<a href="mailto:elad@netstyle.io"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">elad@netstyle.io</a>>
wrote:<br>
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<div
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<div
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sick person which you are referring to and is your
colleague from "The Spamhaus Project", defamed me
for many many months, here in Ripe and in Nanog,
he called me by many names without a single proof.
He was called an antisemitic and a racist not by
me - but by people which are not related to me in
Nanog. After many months I provided an official
response in Ripe. I didn't hear your voice when he
defamed me for many many months with him calling
me by many names. So obviously your interests are
hidden.<br>
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<div
style="font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">In
the other working groups - I only replied to him,
and I didn't hear your voice regarding your sick
colleague initial message with name callings
towards me when I only replied to his attack on
me. And his personal attack on me is exactly like
your personal attack on me now - you are afraid
that an alternative solution to "The Spamhaus
Project" will be implemented if I will be elected.<br>
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<div
style="font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Respectfully,</div>
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dir="ltr"><font style="font-size:11pt"
face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000"><b>From:</b>
members-discuss <<a
href="mailto:members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net</a>>
on behalf of Cynthia Revström <<a
href="mailto:me@cynthia.re" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">me@cynthia.re</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 27, 2020 1:50 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Sascha Luck [ml] <<a
href="mailto:ripe-md@c4inet.net"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">ripe-md@c4inet.net</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a
href="mailto:members-discuss@ripe.net"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">members-discuss@ripe.net</a>
<<a href="mailto:members-discuss@ripe.net"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">members-discuss@ripe.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [members-discuss] Regarding
Elad Cohen's nomination and emails</font>
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<div dir="ltr">> The RIPE *NCC* has no business
either enforcing "professionality"<br>
on the *community* mailing lists - this is the
WG chairs'<br>
responsibility.
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<div>AFAIK there are no WG chairs of
members-discuss and members-discuss is a
mailing list that the RIPE NCC hosts to let
RIPE NCC members discuss RIPE NCC membership
related topics, so I think they certainly have
business enforcing people to be professional
on this mailing list.</div>
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<div>I would also like to add that Elad has
multiple times on different mailing lists
ignored the WG chairs.</div>
<div>Also this is happening across a variety of
RIPE/RIPE NCC mailing lists that are all
hosted by the RIPE NCC and as such I think it
is their business to keep them to a
professional standard.</div>
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<div>> If I'm wrong, where do</div>
I submit the list of people I'd like to see
excluded from the<br>
community?
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<div>There should not be a long list of people,
but when someone is behaving unprofessionally,
calling people "coconut", being defamatory
towards the RIPE NCC, ignoring WG chairs, I do
think that they have gone too far and
everything has a limit.</div>
<div>Like we wouldn't allow someone to send
sales emails to the mailing list as an
example, aka limits on what is allowed.</div>
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<div>- Cynthia</div>
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<div dir="ltr">On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 12:43 PM
Sascha Luck [ml] <<a
href="mailto:ripe-md@c4inet.net"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">ripe-md@c4inet.net</a>>
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On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 12:02:59AM +0200,
Cynthia Revstrm wrote:<br>
>I would like to propose that the RIPE NCC
ban Elad Cohen from interacting<br>
>with the RIPE Community (via Meetings or
mailing lists) due to his blatant<br>
>disregard for the Code of Conduct and for
being hostile towards others in<br>
>the community. As the RIPE NCC hosts and
manages these lists I think the<br>
>RIPE NCC has a responsibility to keep the
lists professional and to remove<br>
>those who repeatedly ignore what the WG
chairs are saying.<br>
<br>
The RIPE *NCC* has no business either
enforcing "professionality"<br>
on the *community* mailing lists - this is the
WG chairs'<br>
responsibility. Nor do I think the NCC should
determine who can<br>
be a member of the RIPE community or not. If
I'm wrong, where do<br>
I submit the list of people I'd like to see
excluded from the<br>
community? <br>
I think this proposal is the most out-of-order
thing I've yet<br>
seen in this thread.<br>
<br>
rgds,<br>
Sascha Luck <br>
<br>
><br>
>- Cynthia<br>
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