<HTML><BODY><div><div><br>Alex,</div><div> </div><div><div><div><div><div>it was a kind of sarcasm to all this schizophrenia</div><div> </div></div></div><div> </div><div> </div></div></div><blockquote style="border-left:1px solid #0857A6; margin:10px; padding:0 0 0 10px;">Суббота, 5 марта 2022, 15:02 +03:00 от alex <alex@mac3.ru>:<br> <div id=""><div class="js-helper js-readmsg-msg"><div><div id="style_16464817651463049765_BODY"><div class="cl_493985"><div id="vivoContainer_mr_css_attr"><div id="vivoBody_mr_css_attr">It is funny to watch how some sponsoring LIR members, who receive money from Russian companies display hate against Russia. Feeling comfortable sitting on two chairs, eh?</div><div style="margin-top:1em" id="vivoSign_mr_css_attr"><div style="background-color:#ffffff; border-radius:12px; margin-bottom:20px; margin-left:22px; margin-right:22px; margin-top:12px; overflow:hidden; text-align:left; width:auto; word-break:break-all; word-wrap:break-word" id="vivo_1_mr_css_attr" class="vivo_sign_mr_css_attr"><table width="100%"><tbody><tr><td style="text-align:left;padding-top:28px;padding-left:0px;padding-bottom:28px;" class="vivo_left_mr_css_attr"><div style="minheight:30px; padding-bottom:5px; padding:0px; text-align:left; width:100%"><span style="line-height:25px;font-weight:bold;font-size:14px;color:#000;padding-right:14px;">Alexey Berezhnev</span> <span style="line-height:25px;font-size:10px;color:#B2B2B2;" class="vivo_job_mr_css_attr"> <span>CEO</span> </span></div><div style="color:#b2b2b2; font-size:10px; font-weight:normal; line-height:18px; text-align:left; word-wrap:break-word"><div class="vivo_compnay_mr_css_attr"><span>MACTREE SYSTEMS</span></div><div class="vivo_tel_mr_css_attr"><span><a href="tel:79032697800" target="_blank">79032697800</a></span></div><div class="vivo_email_mr_css_attr"><span><a href="//e.mail.ru/compose/?mailto=mailto%3aalex@mac3.ru">alex@mac3.ru</a></span></div></div></td><td style="text-align:center;vertical-align:middle;width:40px;padding:0px;"> </td></tr></tbody></table></div></div></div><div class="quote_mr_css_attr"> <blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 0ex;border-left:0px;padding-left:0ex" class="quote_mr_css_attr"><div><div>oh those sweet dreams…….</div><div><br> </div><div class="mail-quote-collapse"><blockquote style="border-left:1px solid #0857A6;margin:10px;padding:0 0 0 10px;"><span data-type="sender">Суббота, 5 марта 2022, 12:44 +03:00 от Mikael mk. Krantz <<a href="//e.mail.ru/compose/?mailto=mailto%3amikael@noackgroup.se">mikael@noackgroup.se</a>>:<br> </span><div data-type="body"><div id=""><div class="js-helper_mr_css_attr js-readmsg-msg_mr_css_attr"><div><div id="style_16464734591271292249_BODY_mr_css_attr">I would like to see the shutdown of internet to Russia. Shutdown of all LIR's connected to Russia and I would like all the ip-resources taken back from Russia.<br>There is no point letting them use the resources that Europe gives them. Let them fall into a isolated country without any access to resources from the rest of the world.<br>Let them freeze let them have no money. Let them have no access or ability to travel to any nice warm country.<br><br>Just shut them down.<br><br>Regards<br>mikael krantz<br><br>-----Ursprungligt meddelande-----<br>Från: members-discuss <<a>members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net</a>> För alex<br>Skickat: Saturday, 5 March 2022 10:30<br>Till: members-discuss <<a>members-discuss@ripe.net</a>><br>Ämne: [members-discuss] Reply: Re: A request to terminate ENOG<br><br>I would like to stipuate that using obscene lexics is unacceptable under any circumstances.<br>> When I read these stories about democracy, voting, etc. nonsense, I<br>> cant't believe my eyes.<br>><br>> The soap bubble burst. The world from 02/24/2022 is definitely<br>> different. Wake up. Sober up. Don't drink vodka, don't smoke grass.<br>> Take off your pink glasses. They shoot civilians people their houses,<br>> cluster bombs kill children.<br>><br>> And you're fu*king about democracy and neutrality.<br>><br>> If the world fails to stop the aggressors, let their own people disarm<br>> them. Go to work!<br>><br>> --<br>> Stary Bezpiek<br>><br>> Слава Україні!<br>> русский корабль иди нахуй!<br>><br>> W dniu <a href="tel:05.03.2022" target="_blank">05.03.2022</a> o 09:03, George Porter via members-discuss pisze:<br>> ><br>> > The fact is that Russia has attacked a sovereign country . The<br>> > Russian army is killing, yes KILLING ordinary people, so RIPE<br>> > standup and be counted and do what is needed to make Russia feel<br>> > isolated. Close all ties with Russia.<br>> ><br>> > George Porter<br>> ><br>> > ins 100x120<br>> ><br>> > Integrated Network Services Ltd<br>> ><br>> > <a href="tel:01928238390" target="_blank">01928 238390</a><br>> ><br>> > <a href="tel:07956592260" target="_blank">07956592260</a><br>> ><br>> > <a>george.porter@in-services.co.uk</a><br>> ><br>> > SUPPLY - INSTALL - SUPPORT<br>> ><br>> > <a href="http://www.in-services.co.uk" target="_blank">www.in-services.co.uk</a> <<a href="http://www.in-services.co.uk" target="_blank">http://www.in-services.co.uk</a>><br>> ><br>> > This message contains confidential information and is intended only<br>> > for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you<br>> > should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please<br>> > notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this<br>> > e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. 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Registered in England <a href="tel:7360277" target="_blank">7360277</a>.<br>> ><br>> > *From:*members-discuss <<a>members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net</a>> *On Behalf<br>> > Of *C A<br>> > *Sent:* 04 March 2022 20:42<br>> > *To:* NOC <<a>noc@medsigroup.ru</a>><br>> > *Cc:* ENOG <<a>enog@ripe.net</a>>; <a href="//e.mail.ru/compose/?mailto=mailto%3adiscuss@enog.org">discuss@enog.org</a>; Members Discuss<br>> > <<a>members-discuss@ripe.net</a>>; RIPE Programme Committee <<a>pc@ripe.net</a>>;<br>> > <a href="//e.mail.ru/compose/?mailto=mailto%3asupport@voks.ua">support@voks.ua</a>; ENOG Programme Committee <<a>pc@enog.org</a>>;<br>> > <a>exec-board@ripe.net</a><br>> > *Subject:* Re: [members-discuss] A request to terminate ENOG<br>> ><br>> > Why is this political nonsense polluting my inbox?<br>> ><br>> > The chair stepped down. Organise a new chair.<br>> ><br>> > If the community doesnt exist it will die on it's own through lack<br>> > of participation.<br>> ><br>> > Stop with the cancel culture shenanigains.<br>> ><br>> > On Fri, 4 Mar 2022, 21:37 NOC, <<a>noc@medsigroup.ru</a>> wrote:<br>> ><br>> > Спасибо, что поправили.<br>> > ?<br>> ><br>> ><br>> > С уважением,<br>> > Самусевич Евгений Юрьевич<br>> ><br>> > Руководитель проектов<br>> > Департамента развития инфраструктуры<br>> > Блока по информационным технологиям<br>> > АО «Группа компаний «МЕДСИ»<br>> > тел. <span class="js-phone-number_mr_css_attr"><a href="tel:+7(495)737-07-93" target="_blank"><span class="js-phone-number">+7 (495) 737-07-93</span></a></span> доб. <a href="tel:11011" target="_blank">11011</a><br>> > моб.<span class="js-phone-number_mr_css_attr"><a href="tel:+7(915)119-89-58" target="_blank"><span class="js-phone-number">+7 (915) 119-89-58</span></a></span><br>> ><br>> > <a href="http://www.medsi.ru" target="_blank">www.medsi.ru</a> <<a href="http://www.medsi.ru" target="_blank">http://www.medsi.ru</a>><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > -----Original Message-----<br>> > From: <a>ripe@voks.ua</a> [mailto:<a href="//e.mail.ru/compose/?mailto=mailto%3aripe@voks.ua">ripe@voks.ua</a>]<br>> > Sent: Friday, March 4, 2022 11:30 PM<br>> > To: NOC <<a>noc@medsigroup.ru</a>><br>> > Cc: Denys Fedoryshchenko <<a>nuclearcat@nuclearcat.com</a>>;<br>> > <a href="//e.mail.ru/compose/?mailto=mailto%3aexec%2dboard@ripe.net">exec-board@ripe.net</a>; ENOG <<a>enog@ripe.net</a>>; <a href="//e.mail.ru/compose/?mailto=mailto%3adiscuss@enog.org">discuss@enog.org</a>;<br>> > Members Discuss <<a>members-discuss@ripe.net</a>>; RIPE Programme<br>> > Committee <<a>pc@ripe.net</a>>; ENOG Programme Committee <<a>pc@enog.org</a>><br>> > Subject: Re: [members-discuss] A request to terminate ENOG<br>> ><br>> > Если это вопрос - в конце должен стоять вопросительный знак, не<br>> > так ли?<br>> ><br>> > --<br>> > <a href="http://www.voks.ua" target="_blank">www.voks.ua</a> <<a href="http://www.voks.ua" target="_blank">http://www.voks.ua</a>><br>> ><br>> > On Fri, Mar 04, 2022 at 08:27:22PM +0000, NOC wrote<br>> > > Добрый вечер!<br>> > > А мы тут политику обсуждаем или насущные технические вопросы!<br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > > С уважением,<br>> > > Самусевич Евгений Юрьевич<br>> > ><br>> > > Руководитель проектов<br>> > > Департамента развития инфраструктуры<br>> > > Блока по информационным технологиям<br>> > > АО «Группа компаний «МЕДСИ»<br>> > > тел. <span class="js-phone-number_mr_css_attr"><a href="tel:+7(495)737-07-93" target="_blank"><span class="js-phone-number">+7 (495) 737-07-93</span></a></span> доб. <a href="tel:11011" target="_blank">11011</a><br>> > > <a href="http://www.medsi.ru" target="_blank">www.medsi.ru</a> <<a href="http://www.medsi.ru" target="_blank">http://www.medsi.ru</a>><br>> > ><br>> > > -----Original Message-----<br>> > > From: members-discuss<br>> >[mailto:<a href="//e.mail.ru/compose/?mailto=mailto%3amembers%2ddiscuss%2dbounces@ripe.net">members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net</a>] On<br>> > > Behalf Of Denys Fedoryshchenko<br>> > > Sent: Friday, March 4, 2022 10:07 PM<br>> > > To: <a href="//e.mail.ru/compose/?mailto=mailto%3aexec%2dboard@ripe.net">exec-board@ripe.net</a>; ENOG <<a>enog@ripe.net</a>>;<br>> ><a href="//e.mail.ru/compose/?mailto=mailto%3adiscuss@enog.org">discuss@enog.org</a>;<br>> > > Members Discuss <<a>members-discuss@ripe.net</a>>; RIPE Programme<br>> > Committee<br>> > > <<a>pc@ripe.net</a>>; ENOG Programme Committee <<a>pc@enog.org</a>><br>> > > Subject: Re: [members-discuss] A request to terminate ENOG<br>> > ><br>> > > If there are doubts about the viability of the existence of<br>> > ENOG, there are proper, democratic voting procedures.<br>> > > When individuals try to decide the fate of a large community,<br>> > reinforcing the importance of their decision with their official<br>> > position or/and personal circumstances, this is not right at all.<br>> > ><br>> > > Considering that many of the people are in a difficult<br>> >emotional<br>> > state and a state of great stress, which interfere with their<br>> > ability making proper decisions, i propose to vote on this<br>> >matter<br>> > in the fall.<br>> > > I hope by this time the events will have settled down.<br>> > ><br>> > > Peace for all, NO TO WAR.<br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > > On 2022-03-04 00:43, Töma Gavrichenkov wrote:<br>> > > > Peace,<br>> > > > (which is my usual greeting message, always was, and will<br>> >ever<br>> > be, —<br>> > > > because the only thing I've always valued the most is peace)<br>> > > ><br>> > > > As the Programme Committee Chair of the Eurasian Network<br>> > Operators<br>> > > > Group (ENOG), I, hereby, with all due respect, request that<br>> > the RIPE<br>> > > > Executive Board formally dissolve ENOG and cancel all the<br>> > potential<br>> > > > future meetings indefinitely.<br>> > > ><br>> > > > Rationale: ENOG was founded in 2011 per the decision of the<br>> >RIPE<br>> > > > Executive Board, and it was assumed to be incorporating<br>> > Ukrainian,<br>> > > > Russian, Belarusian, Armenian, Azerbaijanian, and many other<br>> > > > regional communities in the hope of building a better shared<br>> > > > Internet space among the communities.<br>> > > ><br>> > > > In view of the recent events (if not even the prior events),<br>> >the<br>> > > > said "ENOG community" does not exist anymore, and in no way<br>> >it<br>> > could<br>> > > > be clear to the Programme Committee how to arrange a<br>> >programme<br>> > for<br>> > > > all the distinct and divided communities colloqually<br>> > recognized as<br>> > > > ENOG at the time.<br>> > > ><br>> > > > Technically, under normal circumstances, a request like this<br>> > > > should've gone through a voting process in the PC; however,<br>> >we<br>> > > > currently have several PC members under ongoing _missile<br>> > attacks_,<br>> > > > and I therefore don't believe it is sane to arrange any vote<br>> > in the PC.<br>> > > ><br>> > > > Additionally, at the moment, being a Russian citizen, I<br>> >don't<br>> > > > believe I should assume there's a consensus in the entire<br>> >RIPE<br>> > > > Service Region to still invest trust in me, without further<br>> >due<br>> > > > diligence, to hold any official community position in the<br>> >RIPE<br>> > > > community; therefore, I hereby step down as the PC Chair.<br>> > > ><br>> > > > It's now up to the members of the RIPE NCC Executive Board<br>> >to<br>> > decide<br>> > > > on future actions, and I urge the RIPE NCC Executive Board<br>> >to<br>> > act.<br>> > > > It is entirely up to the RIPE NCC Executive Board to<br>> >consider any<br>> > > > future alignments to replace ENOG.<br>> > > ><br>> > > > Stay safe.<br>> > > ><br>> > > > --<br>> > > > Töma<br>> > > ><br>> > > > _______________________________________________<br>> > > > members-discuss mailing list<br>> > > > 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