<html><head></head><body style="zoom: 0%;"><div dir="auto">Do not forget that eventually voting might be disrupted.<br></div> <div dir="auto">I do not know exact numbers of RIPE members per country, but I think Russia might have quite high numbers of them.<br></div> <div dir="auto">Then we can have situation just like in United Nations, when Russia can simply make a veto.<br><br></div> <div dir="auto">And now we clearly see - UN Was established after WW2 to not repeat history and attentuate all eventual conflicts at its first stages.<br><br></div> <div dir="auto">Veto way make UN completly useless organization now.<br><br></div> <div dir="auto">Any way to check how many members we have in RIPE per country ,<br><br></div> <div dir="auto">Pobierz aplikację <a href="https://bluemail.me">BlueMail dla systemu Android</a> </div> <div class="gmail_quote" >W dniu 21 mar 2022, o 12:51, użytkownik Stary Bezpiek <<a href="mailto:stary.bezpiecznik@gmail.com" target="_blank">stary.bezpiecznik@gmail.com</a>> napisał: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"> <pre class="blue">W dniu 19.03.2022 o 06:59, Taras Heichenko pisze:<br><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #729fcf; padding-left: 1ex;"> Peace.<br><br> I am glad to see that RIPE NCC is legally clean. There are questions about humanism but of course this is not a cope of work of RIPE NCC.<br></blockquote><br>In my opinion - it is not.<br>RIPE NCC claims to operate in accordance with its own policies, that are<br>created by the community.<br><br>Meanwhile, we have a selective treatment of Members in terms of payments<br>without:<br>a) RIPE NCC resolutions<br>b) without annexes to contracts with users.<br>c) policy change<br>Neither the Agreement nor the existing policies allow for discretionary<br>behavior like "this user may not pay, and others must" without formal<br>authorization.<br><br>Of course Ukraine as an attacked country can and must be treated with<br>any aid, including exemption from payments, when possible. But it has to<br>be passed by a resolution of the RIPE NCC ordinance. The resolution may<br>contain one sentence: "We do not issue invoices to Ukrainian members<br>until the end of the war." Vote: who is in favor? All? The End.<br><br>On the other end is Russia, as a country that has been subject to<br>sanctions. It should not be of our interest, that they cannot pay. In<br>result, recognizing that Russia users may not pay, because they have<br>"banking difficulties" means, that no one from Russia will pay. Without<br>any consequences. Although they probably can pay. Letting go at this<br>point is very unfair to other Members.<br><br>I also have a difficult in payment because the Euro exchange rate is<br>very high. Does it interest someone?<br><br>--<br>Stary Bezpiecznik<br><br><br><hr><br>members-discuss mailing list<br>members-discuss@ripe.net<br><a href="https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss">https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss</a><br>Unsubscribe: <a href="https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/piotr%40karwos.hk">https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/piotr%40karwos.hk</a><br><br></pre></blockquote></div></body></html>