<html><head><style id="axi-htmleditor-style" type="text/css">p { margin: 0px; }</style></head><body dir="" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Source Sans Pro", sans-serif; background-image: none; background-repeat: repeat; background-attachment: fixed;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">There is huge difference between an 'International Organisation' and a local incorporated entity (such as RIPE, ARIN etc). The fact that you have a conversation with the Dutch government about sanctions does not make you an IO. And having a conversation with the Dutch government is very easy, so absolutely nothing to be impressed by.</span><div style="font-family: "Source Sans Pro", sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"><br></div><div style=""><span style="font-size: 13.3333px;"><span id="ext-gen74289">The list of IO's The Netherlands recognises: <a href="https://www.government.nl/topics/international-organisations/multilateral-forums">https://www.government.nl/topics/international-organisations/multilateral-forums</a> (RIPE is missing as it is 'just' an Association) </span></span></div><div style=""><a href="https://uia.org/archive/types-organization/cc" style="font-size: 10pt;"><br></a></div><div style=""><a href="https://uia.org/archive/types-organization/cc" style="font-size: 10pt;"><span id="ext-gen74661"><a href="https://uia.org/archive/types-organization/cc"><span id="ext-gen74662"><a href="https://uia.org/archive/types-organization/cc">https://uia.org/archive/types-organization/cc</a></span></a></span></a><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> gives a very detailed explainer about IO's. (The NGO part is of relevance here)</span></div><div style=""><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><br></span></div><div style=""><span style="font-size: 10pt;">So writing a letter, asking Mauritius to view AFRINIC as an IO while non of the other RIR's are IO's, is a bit 'strange' and most likely not at all helpful. </span></div><div style=""><br></div><div style=""><div class="x-axi-signature" style="font-family: "Source Sans Pro", sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"><div class="x-axi-signature" style="; font-size: 10pt; font-family: " source="" sans="" pro",="" sans-serif;"="">-- <div>IDGARA | Alex de Joode | alex@idgara.nl | +31651108221 <br></div></div></div><br><span style="font-size: 10pt;">On Tue, 19-07-2022 19h 21min, Cynthia Revström via members-discuss <members-discuss@ripe.net> wrote:</span><br><blockquote style="font-family: "Source Sans Pro", sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; margin-left: 10px; padding-left: 10px; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);"><div style="font-family: " source="" sans="" pro",="" sans-serif;="" font-size:="" 10pt;"="">Hi,<br><br>On Tue, Jul 19, 2022 at 4:38 PM Elvis Daniel Velea <a href="mailto:<elvis@v4escrow.net>" target="_blank"><elvis@v4escrow.net></a> wrote:<br>><br>> [...]<br>><br>> Question for CK and HPH: Is there such a thing as an ‘International Organization’ in the Dutch Law? Has the RIPE NCC requested such status for itself before asking it for another RIR?<br><br>I do want to point out that as HPH mentioned, the RIPE NCC has talked<br>with the dutch government with regards to sanctions which I would<br>probably consider pretty similar.<br>Also I understand this as a request that possibly originated with<br>AFRINIC although it is a bit unclear and a clarification on this could<br>be helpful.<br><br>I do not want to really get too involved in this debate though I do<br>want to make it clear that I don't really see this as necessarily as<br>too different from what the RIPE NCC has requested from the Dutch<br>government, however I don't know much about Mauritius Law or what<br>classification as an international organization could imply.<br><br>-Cynthia<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>members-discuss mailing list<br><a href="mailto:members-discuss@ripe.net" target="_blank">members-discuss@ripe.net</a><br><a href="https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss" data-saferedirecturl="redir.hsp?url=%68%74%74%70%73%3A%2F%2F%6C%69%73%74%73%2E%72%69%70%65%2E%6E%65%74%2F%6D%61%69%6C%6D%61%6E%2F%6C%69%73%74%69%6E%66%6F%2F%6D%65%6D%62%65%72%73%2D%64%69%73%63%75%73%73" target="_blank">https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss</a><br>Unsubscribe: <a href="https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/adejoode%40idgara.nl" data-saferedirecturl="redir.hsp?url=%68%74%74%70%73%3A%2F%2F%6C%69%73%74%73%2E%72%69%70%65%2E%6E%65%74%2F%6D%61%69%6C%6D%61%6E%2F%6F%70%74%69%6F%6E%73%2F%6D%65%6D%62%65%72%73%2D%64%69%73%63%75%73%73%2F%61%64%65%6A%6F%6F%64%65%25%34%30%69%64%67%61%72%61%2E%6E%6C" target="_blank">https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/adejoode%40idgara.nl</a><br></div></blockquote></div></body></html>