<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">I fully agree with your thought Hank,<div>What are the justification for RIPE pricing raise? <div dir="ltr">Sincerely,Customer Support ATTENZIONE - Questo messaggio contiene informazioni che possono essere privilegiate o riservate ed è di proprietà di C1V di Cinzia Tocci. È inteso solo per la persona a cui è indirizzato. Se non sei il destinatario previsto, non sei autorizzato a leggere, stampare e copiare, diffondere, distribuire, conservare o utilizzare questo messaggio o parte di esso. Se hai ricevuto questo messaggio per errore, avvisa immediatamente il mittente ed elimina tutte le copie di questo messaggio. Ogni informazione è strettamente confidenziale. Qualsiasi diffusione delle informazioni contenute all’interno sarà punita secondo le normative competenti.</div><div dir="ltr"> <blockquote type="cite">On 9 Mar 2023, at 14:28, Hank Nussbacher <hank@interall.co.il> wrote: </blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">On 08/03/2023 15:14, Daniel Pearson wrote: <blockquote type="cite">You are not for profit, and as such I would recommend instead of increasing the LIR pricing, we acknowledge that the world is a much tougher place and review not only the budget expenses of the organization but additional expenses that are not necessary. You're offering up to €250,000 per year funding projects with presumably our registration fee's and funds of which you selected 8 recipients, for a presumed funding of €2,000,000 of our funds..... If that program was cut or reduced, how much would that make up for your budget short fall? </blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Otherwise how about we also investigate other avenues of budget expenditure from RIPE and determine your total projected short fall. </blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Ripe appears to have Approx 190 Employees on payroll as well, but yet RIPE only has 23,397 LIR's and 20,244 members. That is a significantly high ratio of employee to members, - 106 Members per 1 employee - why is this so high, what audits have been conducted recently to ensure RIPE is not suffering from technical creep and employee bloat? </blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Your own budget for 2023 shows you've assigned less IPv4 resources in 2021 and 2022 than in prior years and have completed significantly fewer registry checks. The only real increase seen has been in RPKI's created. </blockquote><blockquote type="cite">You're also projecting more trips this year than previous as well, a 10% increase. I'm sorry but this feels like a huge cash grab to maintain your current life style and I fully reject both Models. If I have more time I'll continue to dig into your financials and we can all have discussions on how as an organization you can be better stewards of our Money. You have to remember, at the end of the day your job is to manage a registry of finite resources. Spending money on events, trade shows, travel and excess employees is not a necessity to conduct your original goals and objectives. </blockquote><blockquote type="cite">The rest of the world, and all of the small companies who utilize your services often times do not have the liberty to simply talk about raising prices, especially in many of the economically impacted areas that RIPE services. RIPE should follow the same course of action as many of their customers do, evaluate internal expenditures and operate within the budget provided by your members, not come to the membership and request we continue to pay for donations to random projects, or a 10% increase in employee travel. </blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Sincerely </blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Daniel C Pearson </blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Private Systems Networks~ </blockquote> Yet another well written and detailed response that I totally agree with. Where I have worked in previous years, when there is a budget shortfall, trips are curtailed, salaries are frozen and expansion projects are cancelled. I think RIPE needs to change its mindset and remember it is a non-profit and can't keep raising membership fees for all its grand projects. Regards, Hank _______________________________________________ members-discuss mailing list members-discuss@ripe.net https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss Unsubscribe: https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/support%40c1vhosting.it </div></blockquote></div></body></html>