<html><head></head><body style="zoom: 0%;"><div dir="auto">Charging more for companies owns more resources is greatly fair because they have LOTbigger incomes that simple /22 company.<br><br></div> <div dir="auto">Another positive effect would be freeing ipv4 resources by such companies (to reduce ripe costs), which grabbed lot of /16 years back, and their penetration of such blocks is not great often. They should reanalyze their ipv4 resources, implement cgnat when possible, and free as much as they can, or pay.<br><br><br></div> <div dir="auto">So RIPE budget would be better balanced, fees would be more fair (300e per account), and bigger companies would think about freeing their resources and putting them back onto ripe pool, for companies need them really.<br><br></div> <div dir="auto">This is something we everyone should push and proceed, though preferable marketing actions towards all ripe members may be needed.<br><br></div> <div dir="auto">Another option is surely to cut stupid costs... cmon maintaining finite database consuming so much money? Traveling? <br><br></div> <div dir="auto">Some kind of REVOLUTION should be organized by us.<br></div> <div dir="auto">Something should be done to activize passive members.<br><br><br></div> <div dir="auto">Pobierz aplikację <a href="https://bluemail.me">BlueMail dla systemu Android</a></div> <div class="gmail_quote" >W dniu 9 mar 2023, o 14:56, użytkownik ivaylo <<a href="mailto:ivaylo@bglans.net" target="_blank">ivaylo@bglans.net</a>> napisał: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"> <pre class="blue">Hello,<br><br>Nor scheme 1 nor scheme 2 are good and fair. Scheme 2 is litle step in the <br>right direction but still far from from what must be.<br><br>By IANA public documents delegated resources to RIPE are:<br><br>688128 IPV4 /22 blocks<br>2131972 IPV6 /32 blocks<br>42882 ASN<br><br>By official data RIPE LIRs are 22500<br><br>If constant yearly fee for each LIR is 300 euro, and charge 15 EURO for <br>each block and ASN the LIRs holds (on /22 IPV4, /32 IPV6, and 1 ASN)<br><br>RIPE will collect:<br><br>22500 * 300 = 6 750 000 EURO<br>(688128+2131972+42882)*15 = 42 944 730 EURO<br><br>SUM: 49 694 730 EURO (nearly 50 milions)<br><br>Which seems more than enough RIPE to function normally !<br><br>On yearly basis RIPE can revisit member taxes depending if are collected <br>more or less money and to ask for increase of constant LIR taxes (300 euro)<br>or to return back money to LIRs (as RIPE done it up to 2021)<br><br>That will be fair charging scheme for me. As more resources you hold, as <br>bigger your organisation is, as more you have to pay.<br><br><br>Ivaylo Josifov<br>VarnaIX / Varteh LTD<br>Varna, Bulgaria<br><br><br><br><hr><br>members-discuss mailing list<br>members-discuss@ripe.net<br><a href="https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss">https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss</a><br>Unsubscribe: <a href="https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/piotr%40karwos.hk">https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/piotr%40karwos.hk</a><br><br></pre></blockquote></div></body></html>