[ncc-services-wg] Members-discuss complaints

Hi,

On Wed, Sep 06, 2017 at 09:40:50AM +0200, Radu-Adrian FEURDEAN wrote:
> A possible solution would be that addresses entered in the LIR portal
> would be considered as just "allowed to subscribe" to the mailing-lists,
> maybe with an invitation to subscribe being sent, but without actually
> subscribing them. the actual subscription would follow the classic
> subscription process, with the extra check of verifying that the
> subscribing address is declared in the LIR portal.

You bring up a good point.  I think what we're seeing is sort of a 
clash of cultures problem.

"Back when this was designed", the assumption was "LIRs have an interest
in what the RIPE NCC does", so "subscription to the central mailing list"
came naturally and logically.

Today, these people have no idea that this is a *membership driven*
organization, and not just a pay-for-service thing with funny bylaws,
so they just don't care and want to get their jobs done, with minimal
fuzz and (obviously) no mails to topics they are not interested in - 
even if they *should* be, but we can't force them.


What am I trying to say?  I have no idea :-) - but it seems we really 
need to change the way folks end up on the mailing lists...  like, 
explicit opt-in with confirmation, and when the opt-in mail generates
an autoreply (ticket system), just deny subscription...

Gert Doering
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