<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=iso-8859-1"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><div>On 4 Aug 2012, at 19:25, Nick Hilliard <<a href="mailto:nick@netability.ie">nick@netability.ie</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; display: inline !important; float: none; ">It's certainly been discussed before without any particular conclusion, but</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; display: inline !important; float: none; ">I didn't gather from the various WG discussions - either at RIPE meetings</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; display: inline !important; float: none; ">or on the mailing lists - that it stalled due to privacy concerns. Do you</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; display: inline !important; float: none; ">have a reference for this?</span></blockquote></div><br><div>First thing I could find is a message by David Freedman from July last year:</div><div><a href="http://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/db-wg/2011-July/003745.html">http://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/db-wg/2011-July/003745.html</a></div><div><br></div><div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><div>After the feedback from the DB-WG Meeting in Vienna last week, I'd like to =</div><div>bring this back to the list.</div><div><br></div><div>I'd like to see the RegID (or equivalent) displayed for all resources in th=</div><div>e database, this will help us identify the</div><div>holder of:</div><div><br></div><div> * PA Allocations (currently found in </div>alloclist<div>, currently attached Org-=</div><div>ID)</div><div> * PA Assignments (only found through less specific aggregate inetnum an=</div><div>d as per above)</div><div> * PI Assignments (not found at all)</div><div> * Autonomous systems (not found at all?)</div><div><br></div><div>The privacy issues concerning publishing are currently being investigated b=</div><div>y the NCC and a number of people have expressed concern about revealing com=</div><div>mercial relationships,</div><div>especially with regards to revealing the sponsoring LIR for a particular en=</div><div>d-user resource (though, I did make the point that you can ask the NCC a di=</div><div>rect question about who the</div><div>sponsoring LIR is and lack of policy means they reveal this).</div><div><br></div><div>The technical issue concerning publishing , is that using the RegID may not=</div><div> be the best idea, the NCC say "It is for internal use" (but it is the only=</div><div> thing I see in my LIR portal?), why not use the</div><div>OrgID (but this doesn't relate to the RegID , how do I link this to a bone =</div><div>fide LIR?) , one issue with using the regID over the orgID may be that the =</div><div>regID would simply be represented in the</div><div>database as a string , since there is no related object to tie it to (which=</div><div> may be an undesirable outcome).</div><div><br></div><div>Dave.</div></blockquote></blockquote></div></body></html>