[RIPE Atlas Ambassadors] {Spam?} Re: How to get people to actually plug in their probes?
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Luca Filipozzi
luca.filipozzi at gmail.com
Mon Apr 9 06:48:50 CEST 2018
RIPE Atlas asked and I agreed to have probes delivered to me at in Vancouver so that different person could distribute them at a conference (that I was not attending). Nearly all of those are offline (and were never online), and they now count against me. I should never have agreed to that shipment, especially if they would now count against me: I have already got there (re 50% policy). My next good opportunity to distribute is at DebConf 2018 in Taiwan. On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 9:32 PM, DurgaPrasad - DatasoftComnet < dp at datasoftcomnet.com> wrote: > Hi All, > > Unless RIPE deploys an uptimerobot type of solution for all the users > hosting its probes and notifies them on email and SMS on reachability > issues – there won’t be any buy in by the end–users. > > If RIPE does that – there will be a clamour for devices and also they will > be self maintained by the users since they are getting uptime reports > instantly and they can use it to measure their links uptime. > > Right now we are depending on the goodwill of the ambassadors but it wears > thin when we start bugging them to maintain the devices. The high failure > rates don’t help either. > > > > Regards > > Durga Prasad > > +919849111010 > > > > *From:* RIPE-Atlas-Ambassadors [mailto:ripe-atlas- > ambassadors-bounces at ripe.net] *On Behalf Of *M. Tajbakhsh > *Sent:* 09 April 2018 00:53 > *To:* Lia Hestina > *Cc:* RIPE Atlas ambassador mailing list > *Subject:* {Spam?} Re: [RIPE Atlas Ambassadors] How to get people to > actually plug in their probes? > > > > Dear Lia, > > Please let me correct our course of action a little bit: > > 1. People, even carefully selected & briefed tech guys, have their > concerns about letting probes into their networks and the resources a probe > may swallow. (we know that's negligible, they don't believe) > > 2. Not only memory stick, but probes themselves fail. That happens after > about 2 years. Believe me, solutions on those doc page(s) don't fix them at > this stage. > > 3. Hosts lose interest MOST of the time, regardless of their background, > mostly because they gain nothing meaningful in the long run. (atlas credit > does not count) All they do is out of personal respect for the ambassador > and his cause (yes, we are spending out of our friendly relations for this, > it has its own consequences). The host gets nothing in return but random > requests to fix the baby. That's kinda boring and annoying. > > 4. Any other number you set as percentage for this and yet it will fail. A > time will come for any ambassador that he is stuck with enough dead probes > that you won't give him any more. I wonder how many of us have already got > there. > > I believe Atlas needs a "failed/lost probes replacement" policy rather > than an "X % live probes to get a new batch" policy. > > Regards, > M. Tajbakhsh > > Lia Hestina wrote: > > > 1. People don’t plug in their probes after > getting one from an ambassador > 2. Host experiences probe USB failure > 3. Hosts lose interest sometimes > 4. The RIPE NCC policy that probes needs to > be at least 50% active > > > > > <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> Virus-free. > www.avast.com > <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> > <#m_-1524394493903914789_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > > _______________________________________________ > RIPE-Atlas-Ambassadors mailing list > RIPE-Atlas-Ambassadors at ripe.net > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/ripe-atlas-ambassadors > > -- Luca Filipozzi -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://lists.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/ripe-atlas-ambassadors/attachments/20180408/4d7eb332/attachment.html>
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