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<div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000" style="font-size:11pt"><b>From:</b> ripe-chair-discuss <ripe-chair-discuss-bounces@ripe.net> on behalf of Randy Bush <randy@psg.com><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday 14 May 2020 16:16<br>
<b>To:</b> Daniel Karrenberg <dfk@ripe.net><br>
<b>Cc:</b> ripe-chair-discuss@ripe.net <ripe-chair-discuss@ripe.net><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [ripe-chair-discuss] Chair nomination process</font>
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>>>> I am failing to understand what I sense is questioning of why we are<br>
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if we should provide input.<br>
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saying you are questioning the input, but<br>
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the list certainly reads like it. Apologies<br>
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mean otherwise.<br>
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tenor of our discussion on this list. this<br>
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culture which keeps me coming back to<br>
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arin, apnic, ... communities.<br>
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is the medium; email sucks. but we're all<br>
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know how to use email. and we're all old<br>
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guessing as a sport.<br>
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is wrong and we were not heard when we<br>
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do we really question the integrity<br>
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question the integrity of the nominees?<br>
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any of these. sadly though, i am wondering<br>
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on this list should cause me to rethink my<br>
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Thank you for this, Randy.</div>
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<div class="PlainText">I've been reading all of this since Nick's first email and I'm honestly very surprised by it all.</div>
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<div class="PlainText">This has been one of the most community discussed and approved processes I've experienced in my time involved with RIPE and to have people suddenly, at this late stage say, "Well, I wasn't paying attention, but I have some concerns, which
aren't about the people involved, but..."</div>
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<div class="PlainText">Randy asks excellent questions. I think we have a process which worked its way through the Community incredibly publicly. We have a good pool of candidates. Sure, I'd love if it was bigger, but that requires people to volunteer, this
doesn't happen magically.</div>
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<div class="PlainText">I'm really confused what people are asking for here, and I would utterly reject the notion that we suddenly shout stop.</div>
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<div class="PlainText">I continue to support the very collaborative work that I see the NomCom doing. I continue to support the process that we, as a Community, agreed to, and I look forward to work with whomever the NomCom chooses as our Chair and Vice-Chair.</div>
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<div class="PlainText">We will have a review of this process and we will all be able to suggest improvements and figure out how to make everything better for next time, but right now, I'm more than happy with what's happening right now and will happen over
the next 6 - 8 weeks.</div>
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