<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"/></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Dear Denis,<div class="">Dear Fellow Members,</div><div class="">Dear all,</div><div class=""><br class=""/></div><div class="">First of all thanks a lot to Denis for all his work, I imagine it must have taken hours.</div><div class="">We, the board and the NCC will follow up on it and will not just have a look at the content itself but also look into how did we end up in this situation in the first place.</div><div class="">We will come back to the mailing list after the legal evaluation is conducted and also report on this at the next RIPE Meeting.</div><div class=""><br class=""/></div><div class="">Regarding the CoC aspect of this emails, we the board did not read Hans Petters comments as shutting down the conversation or policing anyone and we would not have allowed that.</div><div class=""><br class=""/></div><div class="">Best regards and please keep a respectful discussion in this challenging times.</div><div class=""><br class=""/></div><div class="">Christian Kaufmann</div><div class="">Chairman of the NCC Executive Board</div><div class=""><br class=""/></div><div class=""><br class=""/></div><div class=""><div><br class=""/><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 31. Jan 2022, at 20:58, Hans Petter Holen <<a href="mailto:hph@ripe.net" class="">hph@ripe.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"/><div class=""><div class="content-isolator__container"><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" class=""/><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Dennis,<br class=""/><div class=""><div class="">Since you are a working group chair I am making this response in public.</div></div><div class=""><br class=""/></div><div class="">Thank you very much for your feedback on the LIR and Member Agreements.</div><div class=""><br class=""/></div><div class="">I do welcome constructive feedback and suggestions for improvements.</div><div class=""><br class=""/></div><div class="">I will not comment on your email right now, now but I will, however, point you to the RIPE Code of Conduct.</div><div class=""><br class=""/></div><div class=""><a href="https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-766" class="">https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-766</a></div><div class=""><br class=""/></div><div class="">I read your characterisations of the document, as </div><div class="">"This is probably one of the worst» </div><div class=""><br class=""/></div><div class="">as well as numerous others characterisations I will refrain from quoting, though out the document as completely unnecessary.</div><div class=""><br class=""/></div><div class="">They are not helping everyone to feel safe and included.</div><div class=""><br class=""/></div><div class="">Your choice of language does in my opinion, not adhere to the following principles from the Code of Conduct:</div><div class=""><br class=""/></div><div class=""><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>• Being considerate and showing empathy towards others, especially when disagreeing or raising issues</div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>• Giving/receiving feedback or suggestions in a positive way.</div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>• Using welcoming and inclusive language<br class=""/></div><div class=""><br class=""/></div><div class="">I would like to encourage a healthy discussion for improving the document, but you make it very difficult for me to do so, and I sincerely hope the tone of the discussion can be constructive.</div><div class=""><br class=""/></div><div class="">Sincerely,</div><div class=""><br class=""/></div><div class="">Hans Petter Holen</div><div class="">Managing Director</div><div class="">RIPE NCC </div><div class=""><br class=""/></div><div class=""><br class=""/></div><br class=""/></div><div class=""><br class=""/></div></div><span id="cid:3A6B4838-D43A-4D28-B0C1-F674155D459A"><signature.asc></span></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""/></div></body></html>