<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"><html><head><meta content="text/html;charset=UTF-8" http-equiv="Content-Type"></head><body ><div style='font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;color:#000000;'><div ><div>Hi Toma:</div><div><br></div><div>That is exactly what Hans have been trying to confuse the community about.</div><div><br></div><div>NRO letter is asking the government taking over RIR in exchange for immunity for RIR leadership , not asking government being part of community, but essentially ignore all the other stake holders, have government taking oversight rule -and abandon the 30 years community self governance.</div><div><br></div><div> I am all for government stay as part of the community in multi stake holder model.</div><div><br></div><div>But this is not the problem, and not the discussion needed here.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255)" dir="ltr"><table style="font-size: small" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"><tbody><tr><td style="font-family: Roboto, RobotoDraft, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; margin: 0px; padding-bottom: 7px"><table style="line-height: 1.6; font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 11px; color: rgb(78, 75, 76); padding-left: 2px; width: 425px" width="100%" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"><tbody><tr><td style="font-family: Roboto, RobotoDraft, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; margin: 0px"><div><span class="colour" style="color: rgb(69, 102, 142)"><b><span class="font" style="font-family: sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size: 18px">Lu Heng</span></span></b></span><br></div><div><span class="colour" style="color: rgb(69, 102, 142)"><span class="font" style="font-family: sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size: 12px">Chief Executive Officer </span></span></span> <br></div><div><span class="font" style="font-family: sans-serif"><span class="colour" style="color: rgb(69, 102, 142)">LARUS Limited</span></span><br></div></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family: Roboto, RobotoDraft, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; margin: 0px; border-top: 5px solid rgb(69, 102, 142); line-height: 0px"><br></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family: Roboto, RobotoDraft, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; margin: 0px; padding-bottom: 7px; padding-top: 5px"><table style="line-height: 1.6; font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 11px; color: rgb(78, 75, 76); padding-left: 2px; width: 425px" width="100%" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"><tbody><tr><td style="font-family: Roboto, RobotoDraft, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; margin: 0px"><div><span class="colour" style="color: rgb(69, 102, 142)"><b><span class="font" style="font-family: sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size: 12px">Email </span></span></b></span> H.Lu@LARUS.net<span class="font" style="font-family: arial, serif"><a style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204)" href="mailto:a.yan@outsideheaven.com" target="_blank"> </a></span><br></div><div>Office<span style=""><span class="colour" style="color: rgb(69, 102, 142)"><b><span class="font" style="font-family: sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size: 12px"> </span></span></b></span><a style="color: rgb(78, 75, 76); font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 12px" href="tel:+852+29888918" target="_blank">+852 2988 8918 </a></span> <br></div></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family: Roboto, RobotoDraft, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; margin: 0px"><span class="font" style="font-family: sans-serif"><span class="colour" style="color: rgb(69, 102, 142)"><b>Address</b></span></span> A3<span class="font" style="font-family: arial, serif"><span class="size" style="font-size: 12px">, 11/F, TML Tower, Tsuen Wan, N.T, Hong Kong SAR</span></span><br></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family: Roboto, RobotoDraft, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; margin: 0px"><span class="font" style="font-family: sans-serif"><span class="colour" style="color: rgb(69, 102, 142)"><b>Website: LARUS.net</b></span></span><br></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255)" dir="ltr"><span class="colour" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51)"><span class="font" style="font-family: "PT Sans", "Myriad Pro", Arial, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size: 12.8px">This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. 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If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited.</span></span></span><br></div></div></div><div><br><br></div><div class="replyHeader">---- On Tue, 25 Oct 2022 23:00:26 +0800 ximaera@gmail.com<ximaera@gmail.com> wrote ----</div><div><br></div><blockquote style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 6px; margin-left: 5px;"><div>Peace, <br> <br>On Mon, Oct 24, 2022 at 10:11 AM Lu Heng <<a href="mailto:h.lu@larus.net" target="_blank">h.lu@larus.net</a>> wrote: <br>> For RIPE NCC to make their case of seems deep interference with government <br>> <br>> [..] <br>> <br>> NRO's request to make RIR an ITU-like body, and RIPE NCC's apparent <br>> consistent engagement with government officials to interfere in the matter, <br>> I think it is high time for the community to be aware of, discuss and <br>> decide whether such involvement is proper in a community driven, <br>> bottom-up registry who has been independent of governmental <br>> influences for more than three decades <br> <br>Outreach and mutual knowledge sharing between ASO/NRO and <br>governments/intergovernmental organizations is neither anything new, <br>nor a sign of any change in the way number resource authorities <br>perform their duties in the multistakeholder model. You may want to <br>get acquainted, for instance, with ICANN GAC duties and operations. <br><a href="https://gac.icann.org/about" target="_blank">https://gac.icann.org/about</a> <br> <br>-- <br>Töma <br></div></blockquote></div><br></body></html>