<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><br><div><div>On 17 May 2012, at 00:47, Randy Bush wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div><blockquote type="cite">Could someone make:<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> 2) put the graphs at 'not <a href="http://rpki.net">rpki.net</a>' on <a href="http://rpki.net">rpki.net</a> (too)<br></blockquote><br>no. that is the exact point. the graph to which i pointed is on rob's<br>site. these are data each relying party can collect and see for<br>themselves and their point of view in the universe, </div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>Which I think it is a very valuable thing as a RP operator. I haven't used the lastest versions of RIPE NCC validator for myself but that would be a nice feature to have there as well. I will update my rcynic installation, I liked the graphs.</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>not some central<br>authority.</div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><div> ripe/ncc thinks it is the center of the universe. we do<br>not. we know it is in freemont [0], a neighborhood of seattle.<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>I do not think that is the intention from RIPE NCC.</div><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>The intention as I understood is to get the data that each RP is getting and to send it to central repository for further analysis. Which it is a centralized approach but for simplicity, not for thinking that they are the center of the universe.</div><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>In my view there are 2 problems. One is to see as an RP operator how healthy are the repositories where you retrieve data (which for the url that you sent is done very nicely with rcynic), and two it is that as repository operator and protocol designers you'd like to see how good or bad your repository/protocols are doing to provide data to RPs in different locations of the world (which I think it is the aim of RIPE NCC effort).</div><div><br></div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div><br>so that url is very intentionally rob's relying party instance. i have<br>one at <br> <a href="http://rgnet.rpki.net/">http://rgnet.rpki.net/</a><br>but it has not been running as long as you can see.<br><br>and sorry that our certs did not pay godzilla or gobble for the<br>privilege of being in their bowsers. refund below [1]<br><br>randy<br><br>[0] - <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fremont,_Seattle">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fremont,_Seattle</a><br> <a href="http://www.stonerforums.com/lounge/members/guiness-albums-stuff-picture19971-center-known-universe-freemont.jpg">http://www.stonerforums.com/lounge/members/guiness-albums-stuff-picture19971-center-known-universe-freemont.jpg</a><br> <a href="http://www.waymarking.com/gallery/image.aspx?f=1&guid=e712e7f5-0a55-4cc0-a40c-88deedce8d72&gid=3">http://www.waymarking.com/gallery/image.aspx?f=1&guid=e712e7f5-0a55-4cc0-a40c-88deedce8d72&gid=3</a><br></div></blockquote><br></div><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>If anybody else is willing to share its data and URLs about their RP performance, I would be nice. I have an old rsync installation that I will try to update this weekend. Now it is here but does not show too much:</div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.labs.lacnic.net/~rpki/rpki-monitor/rpki-ta-status.xml">http://www.labs.lacnic.net/~rpki/rpki-monitor/rpki-ta-status.xml</a></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div>as</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><br></body></html>