[members-discuss] WG: Feedback Requested: RIPE NCC Broker List
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Heng Lu
h.lu at outsideheaven.com
Thu Dec 19 15:40:55 CET 2019
Hi I am not very comfortable with idea have ripe become some sort of regulatory for brokerage market... Maxemilian Hilbrand <maxemilian.hilbrand at isicore.com>于2019年12月19日 周四22:39写道: > I would also vote for option B > > > > As I completely understand that costs were associated with LIR accounts, a > fee for transferring IP address spaces is justified. Assuming, the most of > us did not “purchase” IP addresses before (we run out of IPv4), a source of > trusted traders would be essential to make a transaction. Even better would > be to get the addresses directly from the LIR. > > Furthermore, RIPE might suggest a price per IP address or limit the price. > This would avoid excessive trading and money-making with initially “free” > addresses. > > > > Best regards > > > > > > *Maxemilian Hilbrand* (Software & Systeme) > > [image: isicore_s_small] > > CH: +41 71 511 722 0 > AT (mobile): +43 660 703 92 54 > maxemilian.hilbrand at isicore.com > > > isicore AG • Unterlettenstrasse 14 • CH-9443 Widnau > <https://www.google.com/maps/search/Unterlettenstrasse+14+%E2%80%A2+CH-9443+Widnau?entry=gmail&source=g> > Gerichtsstandort CH-9450 Altstätten, UID CHE-110.354.078 > Verwaltungsratspräsident: Maxemilian Hilbrand > > www.isicore.com* I *info at isicore.com > > > > > > > > > > *Von:* members-discuss <members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net> *Im Auftrag von > *Lilia Carvalho via members-discuss > *Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 19. Dezember 2019 15:18 > *An:* Schnabeltier <ripe-member-discuss at cidr.eu>; members-discuss at ripe.net > *Betreff:* Re: [members-discuss] Feedback Requested: RIPE NCC Broker List > > > > I would vote for option B … > > > > > > > <http://www.angolacables.com/?utm_campaign=AngolaCables&utm_source=Website&utm_medium=Traffic> > > Melhores Cumprimentos / Kind Regards. > Lilia Carvalho > > Especialista de Desenvolvimento de Negócio > *Business Development Specialist* > > mob: +244927686185 > email: lilia.carvalho at angolacables.co.ao > www.angolacables.co.ao > AS Number: 37468 > > > > > <https://www.angolacables.co.ao/sacs/#utm_source=Website_AC&utm_medium=Servi%C3%A7os&utm_campaign=SACS> > > Antes de imprimir esta mensagem, pense no meio ambiente. | Please consider > the environment before printing this email. > > NOTA DE CONFIDENCIALIDADE: Esta mensagem (e eventuais ficheiros anexos) é > confidencial e deverá ser lida apenas por aqueles a quem ela é dirigida. 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I would vote for option B: > > > > A) Keeping the list. > > > > B) We would consider it as important to have a list of reliable brokers. > The RIPE NCC would only publish information of brokers which are verified. > If the majority would vote for this option, we have to find a solution how > to verify the integrity of brokers. > > > > C) We do not consider a list of reliable brokers as important. While RIPE > NCC cannot or does not want to validate the integrity of brokers at this > moment, the list should be removed. > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Christian Kaufmann <exec-board at ripe.net > <http:///email/new/1/exec-board%40ripe.net>> > *Sent:* Thursday, 19. Dec 2019 – 10:17 CET +0100 > *To:* members-discuss at ripe.net > <http:///email/new/1/members-discuss%40ripe.net> > > *Subject:* [members-discuss] Feedback Requested: RIPE NCC Broker List > > Dear RIPE NCC members, > > > > The Executive Board has been following this discussion and we can see > > general agreement for a change in the way brokers are listed on the RIPE > > NCC's website. > > > > The question is whether the RIPE NCC should remove the list entirely, or > > otherwise take steps to improve its approach. There are pros and cons > > with both options. > > > > Removing the list is straightforward and would spare the RIPE NCC a few > > headaches. However, it is worth considering whether the current model > > provides some incentive for brokers to play by the rules and what might > > happen if this incentive is gone. > > > > Conversely, it's clear that some brokers are still spamming RIPE > > Database contacts. Is this the only problem we are seeking to eliminate > > here, or are there others? Could an updated set of terms or a stricter > > approach by the RIPE NCC help to mitigate this? > > > > Before the board makes its decision, we would like to hear your thoughts > > on this list. > > > > Kind regards, > > > > Christian Kaufmann > > RIPE NCC Executive Board Chairman > > > > _______________________________________________ > > members-discuss mailing list > > members-discuss at ripe.net > > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/ripe-member-discuss%40cidr.eu > > _______________________________________________ > members-discuss mailing list > members-discuss at ripe.net > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss > Unsubscribe: > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/tech%40outsideheaven.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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