[OpenIPMap] Geolocating remote peerings at IXPs

Martin J. Levy mahtin at mahtin.com
Mon Apr 13 15:04:21 CEST 2015


Brilliant point; however as the IX is located where the IP address is
geolocated and the packet must go thru the location where the IX is
located; I'd say the lines aren't that wrong.

Isn't the previous hop (the inbound on the networks peering router) still
correct?

Martin




On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 5:17 AM, Baptiste Jonglez <bjonglez at illyse.org>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> How does OpenIPMap handle remote peerings at IXPs?  Currently, when an
> address is identified as belonging to an IXP (e.g. AMS-IX), it is
> geolocated at the location of the IXP (e.g. Amsterdam), and the UI doesn't
> allow users to change the location.
>
> However, due to remote peerings, the actual router might be located
> somewhere completely different.  For instance, the following addresses:
> 80.249.211.136 and 2001:7f8:1:0:a500:19:8435:1 belong to the AMS-IX range,
> but the routers are physically located in Lyon, France (as indicated by
> latency + external knowledge).
>
> Would it make sense to allow editing the location of addresses in IXP
> ranges?  There might be some issues when two routers doing remote peering
> appear as consecutive hops in a traceroute with their IXP addresses
> (unlikely, but maybe possible?).  In that case, the link on the map would
> indicate a direct connection between the two routers (e.g. Belfast and
> Lyon), while the actual link goes through the peering fabric (e.g. in
> Amsterdam).
>
> That being said, the problem is more general: the L2 link between any two
> neighbouring routers might take an arbitrary geographical path, but this
> is not taken into account by only geolocating routers.  But since it's
> difficult to have access to this information in general (IXPs are a
> special case where it's easier), that's probably ok.
>
> Thanks,
> Baptiste
>
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